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The population of Americans age 65 and older is on track to double between 2010 and 2040. And that’s leading to increased investments in innovative solutions to serve the needs of older adults, in areas including healthcare and wellness, financial services, senior housing, social connectivity and caregiving. Abby Miller Levy, of Primetime Partners, joins us to discuss what she sees happening in the rapidly growing longevity economy.

Abby Miller Levy joins us from New York.

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Bio

Abby Miller Levy is the managing Partner & Co-Founder of Primetime Partners, an early-stage venture capital fund that invests in, and builds from the ground up, companies that can transform the quality of living for older adults. She has spent her career helping businesses and consumer brands grow as an operator, entrepreneur and advisor, most notably in the wellness sector. Prior to Primetime Partners, Abby was an executive at SoulCycle, where she oversaw business development and revenue growth outside the consumer studio business, with an emphasis on building new digital products as the Senior Vice President of Strategy & Growth. Abby has also been a Founder herself, teaming with Arianna Huffington to launch Thrive Global, a behavior change technology company focused on employee productivity and wellness. Abby served as President of Thrive Global and remains on the Thrive Board. Abby began her career at McKinsey & Company then led product development at OXO International. She is a graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Business School.

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For More on Abby Miller Levy and Primetime Partners

Primetime Partners

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Podcast Episodes You May Like

The Age Tech Revolution – Keren Etkin

Breaking the Age Code – Dr. Becca Levy

Are You Ready for The New Long Life? – Andrew Scott

Thriving in Place – Lisa Cini

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Resources Mentioned in this Episode

MIT Age Lab – Blog

MIT Media Lab

Stanford Center on Longevity  – Longevity Briefing newslettter

Leonard Davis School of Gerontology at USC – Vitality Magazine

AARP Research

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Wise Quotes

On Primetime Partners

“And so that’s really the genesis for me of starting Primetime was really on trying to solve this issue for my parents, recognizing that there were a lot of businesses to be built. And so instead of building one individual idea or concept into a business, I thought, well, maybe I would build an investment platform to fund dozens and hopefully hundreds of other entrepreneurs to solve or build things in this white space. And then I, and my partner Alan Patricof – he has been an investor for the past 50 years, starting a large private equity firm called Apax Partners, and then Greycroft, which is a multi-billion dollar venture firm – was also in intrigued by this issue of how do we get older Americans starting businesses, people with expertise and wisdom and network and skills. And so we came together to start the fund in the Spring of 2020.”

 

On Innovation in the Longevity Economy

“But what we’re more interested at Primetime, because we’re an early stage investment fund is the amount of innovation going on in the space. And so just to put a bookmark in there, since we launched in summer of 2020, so almost three years ago, we’ve looked at 1,300 startups that would be included in the longevity economy. This includes healthcare businesses, financial service businesses, consumer and media businesses. There is a lot of new ideas bubbling up because entrepreneurs have recognized, and  all the incumbents of this ecosystem have recognized we need to move faster to build the infrastructure we need to serve an older population.”

 

On Digital Therapeutics

“We do not invest in businesses that are in biotech, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, but they are very aggressively investing in solutions in this area about each of our organs age. And then there’s been this new area that I’m really excited about called digital therapeutics. And Digital Therapeutics is an area that still needs to be FDA approved, but it’s basically using behavioral health in digital interventions as opposed to metabolic or pharmaceutical interventions to postpone, delay or prevent different types of diseases. So I think that there is tremendous investment going into this area. And so that’s from both government and the private sector.”

 

On Alternatives to Long-Term Care

“And then the third area is around alternatives to long-term care. 90% of Americans think that in-home care – these are home health aids and folks that come help with your daily activities of living – is covered by Medicare –  and it’s as of today, it’s not. And the average American’s going to have a bill of $50,000 for in-home care. Now this excludes those big outliers of degenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s and things where that home health bill can be millions of dollars. But in this case, most Americans are unprotected for this. And so we’re very interested in products that protect Americans from the outlier healthcare expenses that can frankly bankrupt them.”

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About Retirement Wisdom

Planning for retirement goes well beyond your 401k or IRA. How will you invest your time after your full-time working years?

You’ll need a different portfolio.

I help people create a multipurpose retirement, with the right mix of interests, activities and pursuits to invest your time wisely. And for many it includes a new version of work in some form– redefined on your own terms with more flexibility and meaning.

Schedule a call to see how the Designing Your New Life program can give you an edge in your next chapter.

Visit retirementwisdom.com for tools and resources to help you retire smarter.

About Your Podcast Host

Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career. He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking.

Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1.5 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes. Business Insider has recognized him as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference. He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

Is there more to wellness than a healthy diet? Dr. Alona Pulde and Dr. Matthew Lederman’s new book Wellness to Wonderful is down-to-earth with relatable guidance and practical advice for a healthy and vibrant life. Drs. Pulde and Lederman bring the book’s principles to life in WeHeal, a virtual healthcare model built on their book’s nine fundamental pillars of health: self, nutrition, activity, play, sleep, family & friends, work, spirituality, and the natural world. As evidence of the model’s efficacy, the Florida-based physicians point to results showing reversal of chronic illnesses like type 2 diabetes and heart disease, weight loss, and increased overall well-being. With chapters dedicated to each of the model’s core pillars, Wellness To Wonderful aims to guide readers from the stress and chronic illnesses arising from living in survival mode to a dynamic, thriving, and optimized life that is truly Wonderful.

Drs. Pulde and Lederman join us from Florida.

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Bios

Alona Pulde, MD & Matthew Lederman, MD

Touted as doctors of the future by Dean Ornish, MD and with their work supported by many experts including Sanjay Gupta, MD, Dr Alona Pulde and Dr. Matthew Lederman combined conventional Western medicine, Chinese medicine, Lifestyle medicine, Nonviolent Communication, Polyvagal Theory, and Trauma-Informed, Somatic Principles & Pain Reprocessing to create their groundbreaking health paradigm. They have been successful corporate leaders, starred in the life-changing documentary Forks over Knives, lectured for eCornell, served as adjunct medical school professors and corporate medical advisors, and are NY Times bestselling authors.

Together they have co-authored six books, including The New York Times Bestseller Forks Over Knives Plan, Forks Over Knives Family, and Keep It Simple, Keep It Whole. They co-authored The Whole Foods Diet and The Whole Foods Cookbook with John Mackey, co-founder and CEO of Whole Foods Market. Most recently they co-authored, “Wellness to Wonderful,” interweaving medical science, psychology, spirituality, and life wisdom to help people achieve lasting health, vibrancy, peace, and joy. They consult for companies such as Whole Foods Market and serve on advisory boards for various organizations.

Alona Pulde, MD is a board-certified practitioner of Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine & Family Medicine Physician. She is particularly passionate about supporting clients with nutrition and women’s health.

Dr. Matthew Lederman is a board-certified Internal Medicine physician & CNVC Certified Trainer of Nonviolent Communication. He is particularly passionate about integrating mind-body health treatment and providing second medical opinions for patients with persistent chronic disease.

After ten years of serving Whole Foods Market as corporate Vice Presidents, helping launch their national comprehensive medical & wellness centers, coaching and retreat programs, and integrated hospital and insurance networks, Dr. Pulde and Dr. Lederman moved on to co-found their new venture, WeHeal, which is the culmination of decades of learning and practical experience organized into an easily accessible program that does everything just short of guaranteeing lasting health, joy and satisfaction in your life.

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For More On Wellness to Wonderful

WELLNESS TO WONDERFUL: 9 Pillars for Living Healthier, Longer, and with Greater Joy

WeHeal website

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Podcast Episodes You May Be Interested In

The Power of Fun – Catherine Price

Self-Compassion – Dr. Kristin Neff

Breaking the Age Code – Dr. Becca Levy

How to Make New Friends in Retirement – Dr. Marisa G. Franco

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Mentioned in This Podcast Episode

Forks Over Knives documentary

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Wise Quotes

On Wellness to Wonderful

“As a blessing and a curse, Matt and I are always maintaining curiosity around how to optimize our lives. And that’s what led us to nutrition and lifestyle medicine in the first place. Focusing on diet and activity and sleep and a lot of the areas that we generally associate with optimal health. But what we noticed along the road is even in optimizing our diet, even in getting enough sleep, even in being regimented about activity, we still weren’t feeling optimized. We were – well maybe – but we wanted our life to be wonderful. And you know, we say that in the book and it really resonates with us. But in a world of infinite possibilities, why can’t our life be wonderful? And so that kind of sparked the journey to what would make it wonderful. And we came upon the nine different pillars that we share in the book. And we feel like each one of those is a key element in taking your life from chronic disease to wellness and way up to wonderful.”

The We Heal Model

“So the essence of WeHeal model is based on these nine fundamental pillars. We call them our pillars of practice. And it really starts with a self in a discernment around what am I needing? What am I feeling? What am I needing? It’s an authentic connection with yourself to even have awareness that things aren’t working the way you’d like them to. And once we have that discernment, that awareness, then we can start tending to these other pillars. Things like activity and nutrition and sleep and play, which is something that is so important and we have completely forgotten about as adults – at least most adults have. Then our connection, not only our connection to family and friends and work and our coworkers, but a connection to spirituality or something bigger than us. We are not alone. And so many of us feel alone and isolated. So just that notion of connection to something greater than us and then to our natural world, to the world around us, to the animals and plants and the environment that we live in on a day-to-day basis. And what’s helpful about the nine pillars is that you don’t have to get ’em all right. You just have to tend to them and care about them and, and use that as a guide. In fact, it’s a lifelong journey.”

 

On Play

“I think one of the most beautiful gifts that play provides us is presence in that moment. You are so absorbed in something that is bringing joy and that you are having fun doing. And it’s really, it’s almost impossible to be stressed and mobilized and play at the same time. And that’s a huge benefit. You see children and children’s natural desire is to play. They also are naturally inclined to be very present. And that is something that allows us to have that discernment as well. When we are able to look at this moment, we’re so many of us are involved in kind of getting through the day, getting through our lives, and we don’t look back and say, Oh, what did I actually enjoy about today? What didn’t I enjoy about today? What would I like to be different tomorrow? Play gives us that opportunity to practice presence. Which is the definitely one of the keys to experiencing life as wonderful. Being present with what you’re feeling, being present with what you’re needing, being present with your connections, being present with the experience of eating and, it’s just even the activity. When you’re present with it, it’s just a different experience versus checking up the box and worrying about all the stuff you gotta do an hour from now. So if you really want to experience that, play – it’s fun. It also usually brings connection with other people. And that’s really essential also to experiencing a more joyful and satisfying life.”

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About Retirement Wisdom

Planning for retirement goes well beyond your 401k or IRA. How will you invest your time after your full-time working years?

You’ll need a different portfolio.

I help people create a multipurpose retirement, with the right mix of interests, activities and pursuits to invest your time wisely. And for many it includes a new version of work in some form– redefined on your own terms with more flexibility and meaning.

Schedule a call to see if a 1-on-1 program or a small group Designing Your New Life program can give you an edge in your next chapter.

Visit retirementwisdom.com for tools and resources to help you retire smarter.

About Your Podcast Host

Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career. He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking.

Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1.5 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes. Business Insider has recognized him as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference. He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

Is there a pivot in your future? Perhaps you’re considering – or going through – retirement, semi-retirement, a second career or a major life transition. All of these entail getting unstuck and skillfully navigating a transition. Joanne Lipman, author of  NEXT! The Power of Reinvention in Life and Work, interviewed people who have successfully steered through these shifts, along with experts who’ve studied them. She found a specific sequence of stages that unfold in these moves to reinvent yourself at different stages of life.

Joanne Lipman joins us from New York.

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Bio

Joanne Lipman is author of the No. 1 bestseller THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID and NEXT! The Power of Reinvention in Life and Work. An award-winning journalist, she has served as Editor-in-Chief of USA Today, USA Today Network, Conde Nast Portfolio, and The Wall Street Journal’s Weekend Journal, leading those organizations to six Pulitzer Prizes. She is an on-air CNBC contributor and Yale University journalism lecturer.

Lipman began her career as a reporter for The Wall Street Journal, ultimately rising to deputy managing editor – the first woman to attain that post – and supervising coverage that won three Pulitzer Prizes. While there she created Weekend Journal and Personal Journal, and oversaw creation of the Saturday edition. She subsequently was founding editor-in-chief of Conde Nast Portfolio magazine, which won Loeb and National Magazine Awards. Most recently, she served as Chief Content Officer of Gannett, where she was Editor-in-Chief of its USA Today and the USA Today Network, encompassing the flagship publication plus 109 metro newspapers including the Detroit Free Press, the Des Moines Register, and the Arizona Republic. In that role, she oversaw more than 3,000 journalists and led the organization to three Pulitzer prizes.

Lipman’s work has been published in numerous outlets including The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, Time, Fortune, Newsweek and the Harvard Business Review. She has appeared as a television commentator on ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and PBS, among others. She is a frequent public speaker, with engagements including the World Economic Forum in Davos, the United Nations, the Aspen Ideas Festival, TEDx, the International Lean In conference, the Federal Reserve Board, and the Milken Institute Global conference, and has worked with numerous companies on issues of gender equity, diversity and inclusion. She also is co-author, with Melanie Kupchynsky, of the acclaimed music memoir “Strings Attached.”

A winner of the Matrix Award for women in communications, Lipman was the 2019-2020 inaugural Distinguished Journalism Fellow at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton. She has served or is currently serving on boards including Yale University Council; the World Editors Forum; the Knight Commission on Trust, Media and Democracy; the Yale Daily News; Spirited Media; the Yale Alumni Magazine (where she served as chair); the Knights chamber orchestra, and the advisory boards of Data.world, Breastcancer.org, The Wire China, and the Yale School of Music. She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. She and her husband live in New York City and are the parents of two adult children.

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For More on Joanne Lipman

NEXT! The Power of Reinvention in Life and Work

Website

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Podcast Episodes You May Like

The Skill Set for Life’s Transitions – Bruce Feiler

Self-Compassion – Dr. Kristin Neff

The Future You – Brian David Johnson

How’s Your Network? – Kelly Hoey

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Mentioned in This Podcast Episode

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Wise Quotes

On The Stages of Reinvention

“I call it the reinvention roadmap. And the four steps are Search, Struggle, Stop, and Solution. And I’ll go through those real quick and then we can kind of dig in if you would like. The Search, the first step, what’s interesting about this is when you are collecting information, you’re collecting experiences. You are accumulating knowledge. But the really cool thing about this step is you’re you’re sucking in all this information that will ultimately lead to a transition, except very often you’re not aware of it. It’s unintentional, which is so interesting. It’s going to lead you somewhere unexpected. The second stage, is the Struggle. The Struggle is when you start to disconnect from your previous identity, but you have not quite figured out the new identity where you are going to. We don’t like to talk about this stage because it’s really uncomfortable. It’s kind of miserable, honestly. And when we go through it, we tend to think we’re all alone and that we are the only people in the world going through this. Everybody else is on this glide path to success, and only we are struggling. But the key here is to know that when you’re in the midst of this struggle, you’re not alone, because everybody goes through it. And you feel like you’re standing still or you’re stuck, but you’re actually not, you’re actually moving forward. But this stage can last for quite a while for some people, and often it doesn’t end until you reach the third stage, which is the Stop. So the Stop is something that pulls you out of your routine. It could be something that you choose like, I quit my job or I retire.”

 

On Possible Selves 

“I just wrote a piece in The New York Times about this, about the idea of thinking about your possible selves. Now that’s a psychological term, but essentially what it means is to imagine what you might be, what you could be, and to go beyond the daydream to take some sort of action on possible selves. So that means if, let’s say I’m pivoting in a career, take a course or shadow someone, or do an informational interview. Don’t just like sit with it and cogitate. You’ve got to  get out of your own brain.”

On Expert Companions

“I’ll give you a second one. This one I love and it is called the Expert Companion. You want to find your expert companion and speak to that person. So an Expert Companion, I’m borrowing that phrase actually from trauma psychologists who I interviewed who work with trauma patients, survivors who actually experience what’s called post-traumatic growth. We all know about post-traumatic stress. This is people who actually can grow and find something positive in the wake of a disaster. And these psychologists say that the survivor needs to talk to someone who can help them rethink their narrative. I think we all need an Expert Companion – all of us. And that person is someone who has an objective view of you, who can reflect back to you what your real strengths and talents are. And if you think about it, we all have sort of innate talents that very often we don’t even recognize because they come to us so easily. Or if we do recognize them, we tend to kind of diminish them because it seems like everybody can do that. We don’t recognize how unique it is. So your Expert Companion can reflect back to you where your strengths are, what they see in you. And it very often could be surprising to you – or it can certainly help you focus on where you want to pivot to. And by the way, the Expert Companion can be a coach like you, it could be as well it could be a friend or a family member. But the key is that they’re helping you. They’re not actually telling you what to do, which is really important. They don’t tell you: go do this. What they say is, what I see in you is this. And that helps you in turn, make your own decisions about where you wanna pivot to.”

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About Retirement Wisdom

Are you clear on what’s next for you?  Don’t put it off. Get started on designing  your future. Schedule a call to discuss how my one-on-one Designing Your New Life in Retirement, Tiny Habits and Mental Fitness coaching programs can help you defeat uncertainty, gain clarity and direction.

About Your Podcast Host

Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career. He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking.

Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1.5 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes. Business Insider has recognized him as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference. He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

Getting older is something to celebrate according to today’s guest Cathleen Toomey, of the RiverWoods Group. But there are also realties to plan ahead for and adjust to along the way. You’ll want to do your homework and get sound advice so you’re well-educated on the options available for you to consider. And if you’re planning to age in place, you’ll want to hear what Cathleen has to say about that option.

Cathleen Toomey joins us from New Hampshire.

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Bio

Cathleen Toomey has led the sales and marketing efforts of the RiverWoods Group since 2007, during a period of expansive growth, when the organization doubled their size. She has done a TEDx talk “Secrets to Successful Aging“; and is a frequent presenter.  In 2021, she launched a podcast, Seniority Authority, “Let’s Get Smarter About Growing Older” to answer questions on aging. New Hampshire PBS recently aired a short series featuring Cathleen’s Seniority Authority content.

Prior to RiverWoods, Cathleen’s extensive brand building experience included work for Timberland, Stonyfield Farm, Babson College and Bentley University. A graduate of Fordham University (MA) and Fairfield University (BA), Cathleen began her career in ad agency work in New York City.

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For More on Cathleen Toomey

Insider’s Guide: Choosing a Continuing Care Retirement Community

Seniority Authority podcast

Video series on New Hampshire PBS

RiverWoods Exeter website

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Podcast Episodes You May Like

Where Will You Live Next? – Ryan Frederick

An Anti-Ageist Second Act Business – Jan Golden

Are You Ready for The New Long Life? – Andrew Scott

Where to Retire – Silvia Ascarelli

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Mentioned in this Podcast Episode

Arthur Brooks

Robert Waldinger

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Wise Quotes

On Celebrating Aging

“I am very positive about aging. I think aging is a great thing because if you’re not aging, you’re dead! <laugh>So don’t we want to celebrate the fact that we are living another day, another month? Yes. Is aging hard? There’s no question. It’s hard. It comes with losses, it comes with emotional losses and financial losses and losses of friends and spouses and sometimes even children. It is not easy, but it is better than the alternative. Not everyone gets the gift of aging. So I would like personally for the world to start appreciating aging instead of denigrating it. Celebrate it! Don’t denigrate it. Don’t beat up on yourself because here are things you can’t do anymore.”

 

On Planning for Long-Term Care
“You need to be prepared to be able to think about care. And the more prepared you are, the more you plan ahead, the more choices you have and the better you’ll feel about it. Because you’re going to be thinking about what your needs will be. Don’t stick your head in the sand and pretend it’s never gonna happen to you. Then you will have an advantage over most other people. Most other people are not thinking about this.”

 

On Aging in Place

“The biggest fallacy that people have when they think about retirement is they say, “I’m going to age in place” and I’m putting quote marks in for your listeners age in place. Age in place means nothing. Age in place is a way to say, I’m going  to stay in my house and ignore the world and myself changing. So if you want to age in place, you have to modify your home. You have to set aside money for internal caregivers. You have to make a plan, you have to share it with your financial advisor, your kids, et cetera. You can’t just stay in your home and say, I’m aging in place – because that’s not a plan. So my big message to to your listeners is no matter what age you are, assuming you’re let’s say over 60, make a plan, cost it out, share it with your financial advisor, your elder care attorney, your attorney, your kids and and think about that. And if your plan is that your kids are going to take care of you, tell them. Let them in on that.”

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About The Retirement Wisdom Podcast

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About Your Host 
Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career. He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking. Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1.5 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes. Business Insider has recognized him as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference. He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

Are you kinder to others than you are to yourself? Dr. Kristen Neff is a leading researcher on self-compassion. She shares with us the multitude of benefits of self-compassion and how to learn the skill of being kinder to ourselves – and turn your inner critic into an inner ally.

Kristin Neff joins us from Austin, Texas.

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Bio

Kristin Neff received her doctorate from the University of California at Berkeley, and is currently an Associate Professor of Educational Psychology at the University of Texas at Austin.

During Kristin’s last year of graduate school she became interested in Buddhism and has been practicing meditation in the Insight Meditation tradition ever since. While doing her post-doctoral work she decided to conduct research on self-compassion – a central construct in Buddhist psychology and one that had not yet been examined empirically. Kristin is a pioneer in the field of self-compassion research, creating a scale to measure the construct almost 20 years ago. She has been recognized as one of the world’s most influential research psychologists. In addition to writing numerous academic articles and book chapters on the topic, she is author of the book Self-Compassion: The Proven Power of Being Kind to Yourself, and her latest Fierce Self-Compassion: How Women Can Harness Kindness to Speak Up, Claim Their Power and Thrive.

In conjunction with her colleague Dr. Chris Germer, she has developed an empirically supported training program called Mindful Self-Compassion, which is taught by thousands of teachers worldwide. They co-authored The Mindful Self-Compassion Workbook as well as Teaching the Mindful Self-Compassion Program: A Guide for Professionals. She is also co-founder of the nonprofit Center for Mindful Self-Compassion.

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For More on Dr. Kristin Neff

The Mindful Self-Compassion Workbook: A Proven Way to Accept Yourself, Build Inner Strength, and Thrive

Website

The Mindful Self-Compassion Program (8 week course)

Research Overview:

Selfcompassion: Theory, method, research, and intervention

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Podcast Episodes You May Like

Chatter & Your Inner Voice – Ethan Kross

Happier Hour – Cassie Holmes, PhD

Retire Happy – Dr. Catherine Sanderson

The Emotional Side of Retiring – Kate Schroeder

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Mentioned in This Podcast Episode

New Study:

Resilience and Enhancement in Sport, Exercise, & Training (RESET): A brief self-compassion intervention with NCAA student-athletes

Wise Quotes

On the Benefits of Self Compassion

“The research is very, very clear. There are both mental and physical health benefits of self-compassion. So if you think of the word in Latin – compassion –  passion means suffering. It’s how are we with our suffering? And if we aren’t with it in a healthy way, in other words, if we dive into it or we become overwhelmed by it, we may develop depression or anxiety or sleep disorders, eating disorders, and then it also may start affecting our health. We might have a lot of cortisol, high blood pressure, and it can have these knock-on effects. So what happens with self-compassion is when we’re struggling, we’re hurting in some way. If we’re there for ourselves, like we would be for a supportive friend, that means we’re stronger and we’re more able to deal with the tough stuff without being knocked over by it. And so it’s linked to better mental health, not only fewer negative things like depression, anxiety, stress, but also positive mind states like happiness and optimism. And that’s because if you think about it, kindness and connectedness, these are positive emotions. So we’re kind of framing our difficulty. We aren’t pretending it’s not there, but we’re just being kind and supportive ourself to ourselves in the midst of the difficulty. And these are positive emotions that help us cope. And then that’s in turn linked to physical health. So for instance, we’re more self-compassionate, our cortisol levels are lower. We’ve got greater heart rate variability, for instance, and that means we also sleep better because we aren’t just beating ourselves up all night so that we can’t sleep. And so it’s linked to both physical and mental wellbeing.”

On Asking What Do You Need?

“The quintessential self-compassion question is, what do I need? And often we don’t even ask ourselves that question. It’s been dictated to us: Oh, I need to go to college. I need to get a graduate degree. I need to get a job. I need to have children. I need to send my children to college. I need to do this and this and this. We don’t ask ourselves: Well, what do I need? And again, one are the beauties of retirement is you can actually pause and say: Well, what is it that I need? What is it that I value? What’s really important to me? But you need to do it for yourself at this point. No one else is doing it for you. The structure isn’t given from the outside, it’s given from the inside. But it’s a beautiful time to be able to do some exploration of what are my values, what really gives me pleasure, what’s important to me. For many people, it’s a time of will actually service giving back that gives me pleasure.”

On Learning the Skills of Self Compassion

“So I started researching self-compassion in 2003, and then in 2008 I met, someone named Chris Germer who said: Kristin, I love your research, but it’s not enough just to research this stuff. You need to teach people how to be more self-compassionate. And then you can research that. And so I started teaming up with him. He had much more experience leading workshops. I had no experience in that area. And so we created something called the Mindful Self-Compassion Program, an eight week empirically supported program, with really good benefits. And so the workbook basically walks you through that eight week program, but in a workbook format, exercise by exercise. And it’s actually our bestselling book, my bestselling book, because if you want to learn self-compassion, it’s like all there. All the steps you need to learn self-compassion are in the workbook, all the basic concepts. It kind of takes you through an order starting small, working your way up. And it really lays out the skills of self-compassion. And they are skills. It is a resource. The good news is even if you aren’t used to doing it, it’s not a totally new skill because almost everyone has developed the skill of compassion for others. We know what it sounds like. We know what it feels like. The skill is just giving yourself permission to turn this resource inward and then not just outward. So it’s actually easier than you would think to practice self-compassion. The biggest hurdle is giving yourself permission and remembering to do it. But the workbook can be really handy for that reason.”

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About Your Podcast Host

Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career. He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking.

Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1.5 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes. Business Insider has recognized him as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference. He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.