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Retirement Wisdom · Apr 18, 2024 ·

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Are you ready for the second half of life? Allen Hunt believes we should be more precise and instead concentrate on preparing for the fourth quarter of our lives once we hit our sixties. It helps us focus with a heightened sense of urgency and it can inspire us to be more intentional about the things that matter most.

Allen Hunt joins us from Atlanta.

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Bio

Allen Hunt is The Fourth Quarter Guy. He helps people discover how to become the best-version-of themselves in the Fourth Quarter of life.

A four-time #1 Amazon best-selling author, Allen collaborated with Matthew Kelly to write No Regrets: A Fable about Living Your Fourth Quarter Intentionally. In that fable, they share the ground-breaking secrets of the Fourth Quarter: the 5 Keys to Living and Dying with No Regrets.

Those 5 keys then led them to create The Fourth Quarter of Your Life: Embracing What Matters Most, a workbook to help people do just that: Discover and plan how to intentionally live their fourth quarters with confidence, boldness and passion.

Allen earned a Ph.D from Yale University. He enjoys hiking, literature, spirituality, history and good food. he and his wife, Anita, live in Georgia. They have two daughters, two sons-in-law, and seven grandchildren.

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On the Fourth Quarter of Life

“And so when you turn 60, you really are three-fourths of the way through, and you’re in that fourth quarter. And as I’ve kind of accompanied folks on that journey, I’ve realized your perspective really changes at that point in different kinds of ways. Your values may not, but your perspective and your point of view does. And certain things become more important. Other things begin to kind of recede into the background. And like my co-author, Matthew Kelly, and I say, death is the one unavoidable truth. And in the fourth quarter, you begin to realize that at some level. And then once you actually really realize that and accept it, then you can truly begin to live. It’s almost liberating once you realize, and this thing is going to, there is a termination date. ”

On Regrets

“How do you redeem those regrets and turn them into dreams? You know as we talked with hospice nurses and as we worked with people who were preparing to die and listen to some of their regrets one of the greatest regrets people expresses I really wish I had expressed my feelings more. And so if that’s a regret that you anticipate that you might have or that you have up to this point so okay how can I how can I turn that into a fourth quarter dream instead of letting that regret kind of hang on me like a wet sweater. And one way to do that is to think about three simple statements I love you, I forgive you, or please forgive me. And who do you need to say those things to? And begin to think about who do you need to thank? Who do you need to express love to? who do you need to forgive and who do you actually need to forgive you? Who do you need to say I’m sorry to and begin actually acting on that. And you’ll you’ll not only begin to avoid regrets, but you also begin to experience a freedom from the past and a lightness and a liberty in the in the fourth quarter.”

On Being Intentional in Your Fourth Quarter

“…intentionality matters in every aspect of your life, whether it’s your physical health, your mental health, your spiritual life. And so just to put together a simple one step, this is the next step I’m gonna take, and then see what God begins to do in your life as you do that, whether you go on that pilgrimage or you develop a daily habit of prayer, or just sitting in silence and being in the presence of God. Take one step, be intentional, and it will be a powerful, powerful force in your fourth quarter, it really will.”

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I help people who are retiring, but aren’t quite done yet, discover what’s next and build their custom version of their next life. A meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident. Schedule a call to discuss how The Designing Your Life process created by Bill Burnett & Dave Evans can help you make your life in retirement a great one – on your own terms.

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Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career and create their version of The Multipurpose Retirement.™ He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking. Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes, with over 1.2 million downloads. Business Insider has recognized Joe as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference. He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

Retirement Wisdom · Apr 15, 2024 ·

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A lot of our day-to-day behavior comes from habits. They create useful short cuts. But while they’re efficient, many lack something important – meaning. That’s where rituals come in. From the civic and religious rituals that commemorate key milestones and special events to our morning routines, they add a valuable emotional dimension to our lives. Michael Norton, author the new book The Ritual Effect: From Habit to Ritual, Harness the Surprising Power of Everyday Actions, has studied rituals and joins us to share what’s he’s learned about how we can be intentional about rituals, both ones we’ve inherited and new ones we create.

He joins us from Cambridge, Massachusetts.

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Bio

Michael Norton is the Harold M. Brierley Professor of Business Administration at the Harvard Business School. He has studied human behavior as it relates to love and inequality, time and money, and happiness and grief. He is the author of The Ritual Effect and the coauthor—with Elizabeth Dunn—of Happy Money: The Science of Happier Spending. In 2012, he was selected by Wired magazine as one of “50 People Who Will Change the World.” His TEDx talk, How to Buy Happiness, has been viewed nearly 4.5 million times. He is a frequent contributor to such publications as The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and Scientific American, and has made numerous television, radio, and podcast appearances.

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Wise Quotes

On Rituals & Emotions

“I think one thing that I like about rituals is that they’re a bit domain general, in the sense that we don’t just use them in one domain. So imagine the only thing we use rituals for was to tie our shoes before a big race or to try to calm down before a big event. We for sure use them there. But then we use them in all these other domains of life as well. We use them in our marriages, we use them with our kids and families. We use them at work. So we really think about this idea of rituals allow us across many domains of life to change our experience in one way or another. We’re often looking for an emotion when we engage in rituals. Like if I’m doing something with my wife that we do on date night, we’re doing the ritual in order to feel closer. If I’m tying my shoes, I’m doing it in order to feel calmer. So we have these ways of using rituals to try to get us to an emotion that we think at least would be helpful in that moment.”

On Rituals and Retirement

“And I think that can help us then have a better demarcation between what we were and what we’re going to be. I was a full-time employee. I was a parent, now I’m retired, or now I’m an empty nester. How are we helping people transition from one to the other? Because it’s a huge transition. When we go through any of these transitions in life, we have, when we look at rituals, there’s many different types.”

On Inherited Rituals

“We have just two broad categories are rituals that we receive or inherit. They could be family rituals, they could be cultural rituals, they could be religious rituals that we get from our parents, from our grandparents, from our faith. And those rituals play an enormously important role in our lives. And we know what they are, and we know how meaningful they are when we do them. Weddings and funerals exist for a reason.”

On Taking an Inventory

“I think the last thing that anybody wants to hear is add 10 more things to your life. That’s not a good selling point. If I said it’s very helpful to meditate for five hours every day, well that’s great, but who has time to meditate for five hours every day? So I often think about it less as about adding a whole bunch of rituals all over the place, and instead starting to just actually looking at your current behavior, kind of taking an inventory of what you currently do. Do you have something that you do in the morning? Is it always coffee and then newspaper and then chat with and then dog? Or are you all over the place? And those are places where you can start to see that sometimes you’re doing things already that have some of these propensities. And by the way, if you don’t think you have any rituals, ask your spouse, ask your children, ask your coworkers. They’ll be very happy to tell you all the quirky things that you do. And I like that idea of starting there, of just already recognizing this role that they play in our lives.”

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Retirement Wisdom · Apr 8, 2024 ·

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Doesn’t everyone deserve a dignified retirement? Rather than fixing our retirement system, working longer is often seen as the solution to finance retirement. But for people with physically demanding jobs or people grappling with health issues or disabilities, working longer is not an option. Teresa Ghilarducci joins us to discuss her new book Work, Retire, Repeat: The Uncertainty of Retirement in the New Economy and her proposal for a Gray New Deal to fix the retirement system in the US.

Teresa Ghilarducci joins us from New York.

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Bio

Teresa Ghilarducci is the author of the new book Work, Retire, Repeat: The Uncertainty of Retirement in the New Economy.

A labor economist and nationally-recognized expert in retirement security, she is the Bernard L. and Irene Schwartz professor of economics at The New School for Social Research and the Director of the Schwartz Center for Economic Policy Analysis and The New School’s Retirement Equity Lab.

As a labor economist, she has spent her career working to ensure retirement security for all American workers. She joined The New School for Social Research as a professor of economics in 2008 after teaching at Notre Dame for 25 years. She frequently testifies before the U.S. Congress and serves as a media source to popular and online news outlets about pensions, labor economics, and older workers.

She also frequently publishes in economics journals and edited volumes and has authored several books, including How to Retire with Enough Money: And How to Know What Enough Is and Rescuing Retirement, co-authored with “Tony” James, who was Executive Vice Chairman of The Blackstone Group at the time and co-authored In an unusual partnership, they outlined their bold policy vision to create Guaranteed Retirement Accounts (GRAs) for all American workers.

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Wise Quotes

On the Pyramid of Retirement Security

“Well, me and everyone else in this field knows that the building box of a good retirement looks like not pillars, but is a pyramid. There’s a base and then there’s a middle part, and then there’s a tippy top part. I think of it as the food pyramid with the base as your fruits, your vegetables and your grains. That’s a foundation and that’s Social Security and that it doesn’t provide all of your retirement income needs, for sure. But it’s certainly a foundation. It’s a foundation of security because retirement is for the lucky ones. A lot of people have missteps along the way that they have to take care of somebody and drop out of the labor force. So your family needs to be secured for that. So a spousal benefit is there, or you may be disabled, of course. And in fact, a huge percentage of people can’t do their jobs mentally and physically starting around 50. And so official disability may not be in the offering, but kind of a partial disability is something that we all are at risk of having to manage. And so Social Security has to take into account the insurance system, a couple of missed quarters. We need social insurance against wild recessions where you might miss hours and work. And so you need that foundation.”

On Defined Contribution Plans vs. Pensions

“And I think an unintended consequence of our do it yourself experiment we’ve had for 40 years in our country, there’s no such thing as elders. You’re supposed to stay young forever. That is just not the reality or the culture or the legitimacy of elders in other countries and other countries. They tend to recognize people grow old and that people want to have a time in their life that they can control the pace of their time and the content of their time. And that somehow having that time at the end of your working life means that you’re still a full human being and that you are actually deserving of that time. In the United States, it’s not clear that if you’re working, you can actually speak up for yourself as a human being. It’s not clear that you can have an identity outside of a work life or be able to protect your time outside of your work or protect or find meaning or flow or identity or have the emotional content that you get from other people outside of the workplace. And so there’s this idea, and it’s embodied in the journalism that tells us a story. This is in my book too. I start with of the heroic barista, McDonald’s worker at 95, Amy Prince, I remember her name. And this journalist said, God, this isn’t this wonderful that she’s wiping tables at 90. And she’s asked, do you like your job? She says, Yes, I like my job. Well, I know as a labor economist people say one thing, but if you give them any out at all, they’ll leave that wonderful job in a New York minute.”

On a Gray New Deal

“So work is good. We all have to work. And maybe 35 years is what most of us are going to be productive at. Some of us might be productive for 40 to 42 years. Not as many people as you would think can contribute. We’re all productive in our own ways, but for that market demand productivity 40 years is kind of stretching it. Retiring is really good. The repeating part I had to research, who’s repeating, who’s going back to work? And it’s usually desperate people. It’s not bored people who find the golf course and being with their friends and family tedious. That’s actually a tiny amount, even though they get a disproportionate amount of attention. So my book is about how we could have a really good dignified off-ramp from work, which is good to a time of life where you can control the pace and content of your time, which I think is a definition of what a human experience should be developmentally. Erik Erickson says that we go through these stages. I had that little book on human development on my desk throughout the whole time I wrote the book. Is that this what ‘The Good Life’ is? Even Karl Marx says, we have to sort of fish in the morning and do the critical literary studies in the afternoon that we need to create our own life. And so retirement is that time and we need to have a way to finance it. And so I call for a Gray New Deal because I want to lift up the legitimacy and the dignity of having gray hair because everyone will have it. And I want to lift up the fact that we need something bold like a new deal. And it has to be one that respects work if people want it.”

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About Retirement Wisdom

I help people who are retiring, but aren’t quite done yet, discover what’s next and build their custom version of their next life. A meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident.

Schedule a call today to discuss how The Designing Your Life process created by Bill Burnett & Dave Evans can help you make your life in retirement a great one – on your own terms.

About Your Podcast Host

Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career and create their version of The Multipurpose Retirement.™ He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking. Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes, with over 1.2 million downloads. Business Insider has recognized Joe as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference. He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

Retirement Wisdom · Apr 1, 2024 ·

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Are you ready to make giving back your second act? That’s the question posed by AmeriCorps Seniors. While volunteering can make a huge difference in the lives of others, it offers many benefits for you too. Atalaya Sergi joins us to discuss how AmeriCorps Seniors volunteers are making a difference by redeploying their skills and experience, including through intergenerational volunteer programs.

Atalaya Sergi joins us from Charlottesville, Virginia.

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Atalaya Sergi leads AmeriCorps Seniors, the federal grant making office of AmeriCorps that is focused on promoting and engaging people aged 55 and over in outcomes-oriented service. She has more than 20 years of experience in service, community engagement, and education, working in the public and nonprofit sector to bring private and public organizations together to ensure people of all ages, as well as those living in underserved communities, thrive.

Prior to AmeriCorps, she served as vice president, strategic partnerships & programming at Jumpstart for Young Children, Inc., managing AmeriCorps and AmeriCorps Seniors programs as a federal grantee. She launched Jumpstart’s only AmeriCorps Seniors Foster Grandparent Program.

Sergi co-founded Los Angeles Generation to Generation, focusing on engaging older adults in volunteerism to support young children across LA County. She currently represents AmeriCorps on the federal government’s Elder Justice Coordinating Council and Scams Against Older Adults Advisory Group. She has been recognized as a PBS Next Avenue Influencer in Aging, an Encore Network Champion, and was selected as a Co-Generate Encore Public Voice Fellow, using her time to write about the positive impact older adults can have in educational settings. Sergi earned a bachelor’s degree in sociology from the University of Virginia and a master’s degree in social work from Virginia Commonwealth University.

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On the Benefits of Volunteering

“One of the things that we have done some research on and learned about is the benefits to your health, and I’m not sure that everyone thinks about that. We did a research study where we looked over a three year period of volunteering, starting with volunteers who had never volunteered before and then following them over time. And we saw that of those that had volunteered for just one or two years, 84% of those volunteers reported improved or stable health. 88% reported decreased feelings of isolation. And we know how important that is given all of the work that our Surgeon General is doing. And 78% reported that they also felt less depressed after volunteering. And I think that getting out, getting moving, staying connected to your community and to others in your community really has a positive impact just on your health.”

On Volunteering & Lifelong Learning

“I think another thing that volunteers may sometimes not expect is that they learn new skills. So we’re talking about adults that are volunteering, that have lots of lived experience, lots of career experience, but we always hear from volunteers that they learn new skills when they’re out volunteering from the training they receive. If they’re doing something that’s different from what they did in their career, they learn new skill sets.”

On Foster Grandparenting

“We have a foster grandparent volunteer in Mount Pleasant Michigan, and they call him Grandpa Rick. He shares his time and passion for reading with the kids, and he started a Book Club where he meets with third and fourth grade students from his assigned classrooms twice a week during recess. So the students get together, they read together, they talk about the story together, and their classroom teacher says that Grandpa Rick’s Book Club has got her students more excited about reading and that they are always looking forward to it. They want to know what the next book is. They want to know how they’re going to get to connect with Grandpa Rick. And when I heard this story, I was like, Grandpa Rick is awesome!”

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About Retirement Wisdom

I help people who are retiring, but aren’t quite done yet, discover what’s next and build their custom version of their next life. A meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident. Schedule a call to discuss how the Designing Your Life process created by Bill Burnett & Dave Evans can help you make your life in retirement a great one – on your own terms.

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Retirement Wisdom · Mar 28, 2024 ·

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Join our next Design Your New Life in Retirement small group program starting on April 26th. There’s one spot left…

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What lessons learned can you glean from a top financial advisor who’s helped many people successfully retire?

Scott Hanson, of Allworth Financial, joins us to share his insights and discuss the Four Pillars you’ll want to put in place to build the satisfying retirement you’ve earned.

Scott Hanson joins us from California.

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Scott Hanson is a founding principal and Vice Chair at Allworth Financial.

A nationally recognized financial expert, he’s been named to Barron’s list of the Top 100 Independent Wealth Advisors in America numerous times and has been listed as one of the 25 most influential people in the financial services industry nationwide.

For over 28 years, Scott has co-hosted Allworth Financial’s Money Matters, a call-in, financial topic radio program and podcast, making it one of the longest-running shows of its kind in America.

A frequent guest columnist for several national financial publications, Scott is the author of Personal Decision Points: 7 Steps to Your Ideal Retirement Transition and Money Matters: Essential Tips & Tools for Building Financial Peace of Mind.

In 2010, Scott was recognized as the Outstanding Philanthropist by the Association of Fundraising Professionals, California Capital Chapter, and has received the Distinguished Alumni Award from his alma mater, California State University, Chico. It 2021, he was recognized by Investment News as one of the 10 “Icons and Innovators” of the financial services industry nationwide.

In 2019, Scott was the inspiration behind the founding of Allworth Kids, which has provided laptops, overnight kits, and financial assistance to over 200,000 foster kids to date.

Scott and his wife Valerie reside in El Dorado Hills, CA and have four children.

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Wise Quotes

On Work as an Option

“So I think it’s really important that people get to a point where retirement’s an option and where work is an option, not an obligation. When people get to that point where they have the financial independence, I think it changes their mindset and they can look at work a lot differently. They have other options available to them. And so for us, for financial advisors, it’s really about getting to that point where you’ve got that independence where you can choose your own future.”

On Planning for Life After You Retire

“A lot of people think ‘Well, as soon as I retire, I’m going to get rid of all my responsibilities and just going to have all kinds of blank space and a blank canvas to build from.’ That’s not always a very healthy way to approach retirement. I’ll never forget, years ago, I had a client, she was an executive, a CEO of a mid-size company with a couple of hundred employees, and she had done a nice job saving. She’d come in and we’d talk about her retirement preparedness. So we’re having the same conversation again – our annual review. And I said to her ‘Stacy, let’s assume you’re retired today. Tell me what your next few weeks look like. How are you spending your time?’ She says ‘What do you mean? ‘I said ‘Well, your entire career, you’ve been coaching people, mentoring people, you’ve been involved in strategic plans, you’ve been working as teams. What are you going to do in retirement to still have some of those activities? ‘And she sent me an email two weeks after our conversation and she said: Your questions haunted me. I realize I have a lot of work to do between now and retirement.“

On The Four Pillars of a Successful Retirement

“These are the four pillars, briefly: Health and Wellness, and that’s people feeling fairly confident about their health. Second is Prosperity – it’s not about being rich, but it means being confident that you can maintain your current lifestyle going forward. The third is People. That’s having Meaningful Relationships in our life – maybe not tons of people. If you’re an introvert, maybe just one or two close friends who are really important to you. But with those people, interactions are important. And then the fourth thing is Purpose, having something in your life that is of value to you and of value to others. What are you here for? And the people that have been able to focus on those four and to spend some time in planning all each of those areas, they’re the ones that we find have the most successful retirements.”

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I help people who are retiring, but aren’t quite done yet, discover what’s next and build their custom version of their next life. A meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident. Schedule a call to discuss how the Designing Your Life process created by Bill Burnett & Dave Evans can help you make your life in retirement a great one – on your own terms.

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The views and opinions expressed by guests on The Retirement Wisdom Podcast are solely those of the guests and do not reflect the opinion of the host or Retirement Wisdom, LLC. The Retirement Wisdom Podcast primarily covers the non-financial aspects of retirement. From time to time we may invite guests who discuss other aspects of retirement planning, solely for educational purposes. Listeners are advised to consult qualified financial and/or medical professionals on those matters.

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