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Retirement Wisdom · Sep 9, 2020 ·

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What’s life in retirement like for a retired lawyer? And what does a career change for lawyers look like after years in practice? In this episode of our retirement podcast, we talk with retired attorney Mark Shaiken, about his book And… Just Like That: Essays on a life before, during, and after the law, about his story and his advice on second careers for lawyers (and non-lawyers as well).

We talk with Mark about:

How he decided to become a lawyer
His replacement word for retirement – and what his afterlife is like as a retired lawyer
What his transition to retirement was like
How a teacher may have put his interest in art on hold – and what it’s like working in a creative field today
What he’s learned about himself in his life as a retired lawyer
How lawyers can use their skill-set in other ways in second careers for lawyers
His advice for those considering a career change for lawyers – or a career change or non-lawyers as well.

Mark joins us from Denver, Colorado.

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Bio

Forty-one years in the law and then one day, no more law, just like that.

After retirement, Mark Shaiken authored: And… Just Like That: Essays on a life before, during, and after the law.

Mark is a survivor of a decades-long career in the corporate bankruptcy trenches. He sat for 10 years on his law firm’s board of directors and was a member of its strategic planning committee. He holds his B.A. from Haverford College and received his J.D. from Washburn University. He is a graduate of the Colorado Business Committee for the Arts’ Leadership Arts program. He holds seats on Art Boards, sits on Habitat for Humanity, Metro Denver’s audit and finance committee, and is a member of the Downtown Denver Partnership’s Mobility and Housing Councils. He now measures his life by what he gives and enjoys that immensely. Mark has now started his next book “Fresh Start,” a bankruptcy novel.

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Wise Quotes

On Transitioning to Retirement

“I think that I am correct that lawyers go through this process of why did I become a lawyer? Was this really the thing I should have done perhaps more than other professions? Because I think I hit a chord that resonated with the readers about that path. And I sure spend an awful lot of time during my career, trying to think of other things to do, maybe dreaming of other things to do, and certainly negotiating with myself as to how much longer I would hang on as an attorney. But I finally found my path out and I took it. And now I’m in the not-for-profit world where I feel like I get to ask every day at the end of the day, what I gave and I’m, I enjoy that immensely. That’s quite different than what you find in the law firm world, where you, you tend to be measuring your career by what you get. And I certainly did some of that during my career, but now I get to measure my life by what I’m giving. And that makes me really happy.”

On the Non-linearity of Life

“I don’t think there’s much about life that’s linear – even if it’s somebody that’s always known what they wanted to do. And then, [once you decide to do something different] there’s nothing about life that’s linear, which makes it kind of interesting. The ups and the downs can be scary, but that’s what living on Planet Earth is. So nothing that I have ever done has been linear, including in this afterlife. I’ve learned a lot of things, post my law career, but I didn’t know about myself. That makes even what I’m doing now, not particularly linear, but I’m used to that at this point. And so it doesn’t scare me as much as it might have when I was, you know, 25 or 30.”

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For More on Mark Shaiken

Mark’s Website

Mark Shaiken’s book on Amazon: And… Just Like That: Essays on a life before, during, and after the law.

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Retirement Wisdom · Sep 4, 2020 ·

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Do your ideas about retirement include volunteering? Retirement is not the end, it’s the beginning of a new phase of life. And a volunteer opportunity provides a new pathway. Two retirees volunteer, become friends, and later write a book about it. In this episode of our retirement podcast, we talk with the authors of The Paths We Cross. The book is a joint memoir detailing their lives and their experiences as volunteers with AARP.

We discuss with the authors:

What attracted them to AARP’s Tax-Aide Program
What they think people need to know about volunteering, and how to find the right volunteer opportunity
What led them to write a book together –and what was it was like to write a book together
What they know now about retirement that they didn’t know before
What they are finding to be the best things about life in retirement –and the biggest challenges
Their advice on retirement for someone who’s planning to retire soon

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Wise Quotes

On Retirement

“…Retirement can be fun if you choose to do the right thing.”

On Goals

“…Set goals for yourself, goals that will fulfill your needs. Think about what you’d like to do that you couldn’t have done before. Maybe a hobby, maybe something else, but set your goal before you retire.”

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Bios

Noam Eimer is an information technology professional with a Master’s degree in Civil Engineering from Newark College of Engineering (now known as NJIT). Born in Israel only a few years before the country’s declaration of independence, Noam immigrated to the United States in 1964 to pursue his education after serving in the Israeli army and has lived there ever since. He has extensive experience in project management, business process engineering, large-scale application development, and new business development projects. After a 35-year career, he retired from active employment but continues to contribute his knowledge, expertise, and time to create value for his community on a volunteer basis, most notably through the AARP Tax-Aide Program. Noam has resided in the Philadelphia area with his wife for the past five decades where they also raised three children.

Bruce Satalof is a business professional with a Bachelor’s degree in Business Administration from St. Joseph’s University. Born in West Philadelphia, Bruce was the youngest of four boys to parents whose Depression Era roots were a strong influence. Whereas he thrived in sports and business endeavors, it wasn’t until his 30’s that he felt compelled to pursue a college degree in order to realize his full potential. After attending night school while working full time and helping to raise two children, Bruce achieved his dream in 2004 when he received his degree in Business Administration. Having retired from active employment after a 32-year career, he was able to continue applying his management skills as a volunteer in the AARP Tax-Aide Program. Bruce continues to live in the Philadelphia area with his wife and has found his post-retirement ventures to be a fulfilling part of his life’s journey.

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Retirement Wisdom · Aug 31, 2020 ·

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Parenting adult children and maintaining strong relationships with adult children, takes adjustment and flexibility. As parents get older, so do their children. While you’ll always be their parent, the lives of adult children bring new dynamics and complexities. Careers, spouses, and in-laws enter the picture. And sometimes family estrangement can occur.

In this episode of our retirement podcast, our guest is Tina Gilbertson, author of Reconnecting with Your Estranged Adult Child.

We discuss with Tina:

What the research shows about how common this is and how it’s trending
What causes some relationships with adult children to fracture
The different types of estrangement
How the path to reconciliation begins
What successful reconciliations have in common
How to keep relationships with adult children healthy

Tina joins us from Denver, Colorado.

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Wise Quotes

On Compassion

“The first step to reconciliation is to recognize that reconciliation is required and find compassion for yourself for finding yourself in this painful, difficult, sometimes excruciating position. Compassion is always the very first step…So the first step is self-compassion. That’s also important because when you can find compassion for yourself, you naturally find that you feel more compassion also for your child. And that is a good basis for forming a connection. That mutual compassion is sort of I’m okay. You’re okay. I’m a good person. You’re a good person. That’s why that in my mind is Step One.”

On Boundaries

“…When we talk about healthy relationships, one thing that almost automatically comes up is boundaries and respecting boundaries. And some people don’t like the concept of boundaries because it feels aggressive or it feels cold. But I think that is a misinterpretation of what boundaries are meant to do. We have fences around our yards, but we also have always a gate in the fence that can be opened and closed. It’s not a moat. It’s just saying, this is my yard. And that is not my yard. And so respecting boundaries is an important thing for parents to do with adult children. But it’s also a thing too, that they need to require of everyone else, including their adult child. “And it may seem it’s counterintuitive to talk to a parent. Who’s been rejected on willingly about holding her own boundaries. And yet it’s terribly important because many parents feel like doormats like their child is walking all over them.”

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Bio

Tina Gilbertson is a psychotherapist who specializes in supporting parents of estranged adult children and is the founder of the Reconnection Club, the essential online resource for parents of estranged adult children.

She is the author of Constructive Wallowing: How to Beat Bad Feelings By Letting Yourself Have Them and Reconnecting with Your Estranged Adult Child. Her weekly podcast is called The Reconnection Club Podcast.

As an expert on relationships and communication, she’s been featured in dozens of media outlets including Forbes, The Washington Post, The Chicago Tribune, and Fast Company.

Tina holds a master’s degree in counseling psychology, is licensed as an LPC in Colorado and Oregon, and is also a Board-Certified Telemental Health Provider, offering online therapy to clients in both states. Though her office is currently in Denver, she offers training and consulting all over the world.

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For More on Tina Gilbertson

Tina’s website

Her latest book Reconnecting with Your Estranged Adult Child

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We help people who are retiring from their primary career – and aren’t done yet – discover what’s next.

A long retirement is a terrible thing to waste. And a meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident.

Schedule a call today to discuss how we can help you make yours great.

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Retirement Wisdom · Aug 19, 2020 ·

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Are You Ready for Your Next Transition?

Life’s transitions come at you more often than you might think. And when you’re transitioning to retirement, you may be dealing with other life transitions simultaneously, such as becoming an empty nester or relocating. Author Bruce Feiler’s new book reveals interesting data points on various types of life transitions and how often they tend to occur. Based on 225 interviews with people from all walks of life, Feiler details the common types of transitions – Disruptors and Lifequakes – and examines how they arise, involuntarily, and voluntarily. Best of all, the second half of the book outlines valuable tools you can use to manage transitions effectively.

Bruce Feiler is a master storyteller and this book is a pleasure to read. Most important, it’s a Gamechanger. It’s a paradigm shift that will reframe how you view the transition into retirement life.

We talk with Bruce Feiler about:

What inspired him to write Life Is In The Transitions
Why we expect life to unfold in a linear fashion, yet it is inherently non-linear
What surprised him in the data that emerged from the interviews
How Disruptors become Lifequakes
Why we resist transitions
How creativity can be useful in transitions
How this can be used in education, so it’s not always ‘learned the hard way’
His advice for people transitioning to retirement, perhaps earlier than planned

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Bio

Bruce Feiler is one of America’s most popular voices on contemporary life. He is the author of six consecutive New York Times bestsellers; the presenter of two prime-time series on PBS; and the inspiration for the drama Council of Dads on NBC. Bruce’s two Ted Talks have been viewed more than two million times. Employing a firsthand approach to his work, Bruce is known for living the experiences he writes about. His work combines timeless wisdom with timely knowledge turned into practical, positive messages that allow people to live with more meaning, passion, and joy. His new book, LIFE IS IN THE TRANSITIONS: Mastering Change at Any Age, describes his journey across America, collecting hundreds of life stories, exploring how we can navigate the growing number of life transitions with greater purpose and skill.

For more than a decade, Bruce has explored the intersection of families, relationships, health, and happiness. His book The Secrets of Happy Families collects best practices from some of the country’s most creative minds. The Council of Dads describes how, faced with one of life’s greatest challenges, he asked six friends to support his young daughters. The book was profiled in PEOPLE, USA Today, and Time and was the subject of a CNN documentary hosted by Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

Since 2001, Bruce has been one of the country’s preeminent thinkers about the role of spirituality in contemporary life. Walking The Bible describes his 10,000-mile journey retracing the Five Books of Moses through the desert. The book spent a year and a half on the New York Times bestseller list and has been translated into fifteen languages.

Bruce Feiler has written for numerous publications, including The New Yorker, The New York Times Magazine, and Gourmet, where he won three James Beard Awards. He is a frequent commentator on radio and television. A former circus clown, he has been the subject of a Jay Leno joke and a JEOPARDY! question, and his face appears on a postage stamp in the Grenadines.

A native of Savannah, Georgia, Bruce lives in Brooklyn with his wife, Linda Rottenberg, and their identical twin daughters.

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Wise Quotes

On Life Transitions

“…there has not been a book on life transitions, a major book in 40 years. Like this is a concept that we have expelled from our culture. And a lot of what I’ve been believing for years is that we need to do is kind of re-understand and re-embrace the idea of a life transition as a meaningful way to get through a change in your life. And then, as I said, now, suddenly it’s urgent and everybody realizes, Oh my gosh, I’m going through this. I need help.”

On Involuntary and Voluntary Life Transitions

“So I went into it thinking that most of these transitions would be something happened to you, right? You got a diagnosis, you were laid off, you lost her limbs. You got cancer. Because a lot of the ones that inspired me were things that happened to me. It turns out that again, I was wrong. 53% of our life transitions are involuntary, but 47% are voluntary. And I’m guessing people who are listening to this conversation can relate to that right in retirement. They say, Finally, I’m going to make the change, right? I’m an empty nester now, right? I’ve either put the kids or mostly put the kids through college or I want to move, or I want to bike more or right. Open up an Airbnb or travel more, whatever these are, these are still like quakes. These are still big life changes, but we initiate them.”

On Disruptors & Lifequakes

“…we go through more changes of a wider variety of aspects of our lives over a much wider span in our lives than most people anticipate. So I tallied up all of the changes that people experience in their lives. And I came up with three dozen. So that’s one life change every 12 to 18 months, but most of these are small and most of these, we get them. So I call this a Disruptor – and I called it a Disruptor because I didn’t like the other language that was out there. The other language that is out there was things like stressor or crisis. But as I said, some of these are wonderful, like getting married is a disruptor, having a child is a disruptor, getting a pet can be a disruptor. Moving can be a disruptor, retiring can be a disruptor. And again, most of these we get through. So that’s one disruptor every 12, 18 months. And by the way, that’s more often than many people see a dentist, but one in 10 of those becomes a Lifequake and it’s a massive life change. So why is it? And so that’s three to five times in our lives. And by the way, the average length of time to navigate this is five years. So you think we go through three to five, they take four or five years. That’s 25 years. That’s half of our adult lives.”

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For More on Bruce Feiler

Read Life Is in the Transitions

Bruce Feiler’s website

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About Retirement Wisdom

We help people who are retiring from their primary career – and aren’t done yet – discover what’s next.

A long retirement is a terrible thing to waste. And a meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident.

Schedule a call today to discuss how we can help you make yours great.

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Retirement Wisdom · Aug 12, 2020 ·

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How to Take Control of Your Career in Turbulent Times

Is it time to switch careers? Or perhaps pursue early retirement and create a second career? Savvy career planning requires you to be thinking two steps ahead in the best of times. However, in times like these, your awareness needs to be sharpened. It’s wise to tune in intently to what’s happening, in and around you, that may affect what’s next for you. Maggie Craddock’s new book Lifeboat: Navigating Unexpected Career Change and Disruption, offers a strategy and valuable guidance on how to take control of your next career move in a dynamic and uncertain world.

In this episode of the Retirement Wisdom podcast, we discuss:

What inspired her to write her third book Lifeboat
How a Big Ship mindset can take a toll on you
How to spot Icebergs that may affect your career planning and direction
Why you need to be aware of inner icebergs as well as external ones
Her own Lifeboat experience that spurred a career change to more meaningful work
How cultivating courage, inner wisdom and emotional agility can help you take control of your life & career
Her advice on how to start building a Lifeboat mindset

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Bio

Maggie Craddock is an executive coach who has worked with clients at all levels on the professional spectrum – from people entering the workforce to Fortune 500 CEOs. She has been featured on CNBC, National Public Radio and quoted in national publications including the Wall Street Journal, the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune.

Maggie is the author of “Lifeboat: Navigating Unexpected Career Change and Disruption”, “Power Genes: Understanding Your Power Persona and How to Wield it at Work”, and “The Authentic Career: Following the Path of Self-Discovery to Professional Fulfillment”.

She has also written several nationally syndicated articles on behavioral dynamics in the workplace, and her work has been discussed in publications ranging from Harvard Business Review to Oprah Magazine. She is a popular keynote speaker at leadership conferences for her corporate clients and industry networking associations.

Before building her executive coaching business, Maggie worked for over a decade on both the buy and the sell sides of the financial services industry. As a Portfolio Manager at Scudder, Stevens & Clark, Maggie managed $3 billion in short-term global assets. She received two Lipper Awards for top mutual fund performance: Best Short-Term Multi-Market Income Fund, ranked #1 by Lipper in a universe of 77 funds, and Best World Income Fund over $1 billion in size, ranked #1 by Lipper in a universe of 7 funds.

She also served as a National Director of Consultant Relations at Sanford C. Bernstein, representing the firm across all asset classes including emerging markets, domestic and international fixed income, and domestic and international equity to major consultants and pension fund clients nationwide.

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Wise Quotes

On the Lifeboat Mindset

“This is about actually tapping into difficult feelings, acknowledging them. If you’re anxious, if you’re envious, if you’re resentful, whatever it is, face it, acknowledge it. And then bring yourself back to the present moment so that you don’t get pulled into a narrative from the past and capsized by the feelings. It’s really about learning to process that emotional energy. And the reason it’s so important to be in touch with what you’re feeling, particularly when the feelings are big, is in situations where you have more questions than answers. You need to notice those red flags because you may need to course-correct. And then finally the Lifeboat process is about what I call this inner alignment of really aligning your thoughts, your feelings, and your intentions in the present moment, and not trying to take these grand actions that assume you have all the answers right now. And you’re just going forward with that. But look for practical, positive opportunities in the moment to do the next right thing, the next row of the oar – and if you do that, you’ll keep moving in the right direction. And eventually, you will align yourself with opportunities. You’ll navigate this period of uncertainty and you’ll be there for positive opportunities when the crisis abates.”

On Wisdom

“I think that wisdom… and accepting reality are very kissing cousins on this one, right? Because the more that I progress through the journey of life – and of course I’ve got good days and bad, like everybody else – the more that I realize my wisest moments are when I’m being authentic with myself, particularly around uncomfortable feelings. So if I feel frustrated with the kids or the grandkids now, I’m not necessarily going to hopefully react to that in the moment, but I need to acknowledge what I’m feeling and I need to be okay with it. I’m not the perfect person. Sometimes I’m frustrated, sometimes I’m short-tempered. And if I can acknowledge that within myself with good humor and perspective, the odds of my being able to respond in a way that’s most effective [increase].”

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Read Maggie Craddock’s New Book:

Lifeboat: Navigating Unexpected Career Change and Disruption

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About Retirement Wisdom

We help people who are retiring from their primary career – and aren’t done yet – discover what’s next.

A long retirement is a terrible thing to waste. And a meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident.

Schedule a call today to discuss how we can help you make yours great.

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