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Have you ever wondered how to become a filmmaker? As your second-act career? Melissa Davey knows how – she’s done it and she returns to our retirement podcast to share her lessons learned. Her story is about smart risk-taking and the value of a growth mindset. But it’s also about the courage to walk away from a career to follow her dream when the opportunity presented itself. She took it and her story is one that’s sure to inspire people.

Risk-taking Can Lead to New Avenues

When people think of a calling they think of people like Steve Javie and his compelling story. But many have other types of callings they carry inside. These are dreams deferred, often from passions developed early in life and interests put to the side during working lives. But later life can serve up opportunities to do what you really want to do.
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We discuss with Melissa:
  • The story of how she became a documentary filmmaker
  • The lessons she learned from the people in The Beyond Sixty Project film
  • What she learned from the experience of making it
  • The stories from the film that resonate with her even more today
  • How her life has changed since the release of The Beyond Sixty Project
  • The benefits – and the challenges – of working with an intergenerational creative team
  • What’s it been like to be a grandparent during COVID
  • Her advice for people who may want to pursue a Second Act career
  • And what’s next for her

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Bio 

Melissa Davey is a documentary filmmaker who lives in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania. She is a wife, a mother and a grandmother to three young boys. She is a world traveler and curious about everything unknown. She recently retired after more than two decades from GENEX Services Inc., the largest Managed Care case management organization in the U.S, where she was recruited to build and operate the company’s Social Security representation division. Prior to GENEX, Melissa had almost twenty years of diversified experience in the field of disability. She held senior leadership and management positions throughout her career. Melissa’s second act is fueled by a lifelong passion for film and story-telling.

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Wise Quotes

On Second Acts

“What I have found is that there are huge numbers of people in their sixties and seventies who are finishing careers, or maybe even already a second career and are saying, Okay, I’m done with that. I don’t want to work at that pace. I don’t want to work possibly for another individual or a big corporation or whatever it might be. I want to do something meaningful for me that will also benefit others. That’s what I’m hearing all the time. What can I do to keep going, but improve upon myself? And one of the greatest things we can do is try something new and something that might impact others in a positive way.”

On Dreams (and Deadlines)

“I think people need to not discount dreams. And I think a lot of times messaging when we were growing up was, Oh, that doesn’t, that doesn’t make sense. You go to college, you get a job, and you build a career. And that’s what you do. People might have other artistic dreams or, any type of dream, that might be pooh-poohed by either family members or society in general. I think that we should not ignore that. And I think that we should – especially – not ignore that as we get older because of the calendar, because we only have so much time left.”

On Taking Calculated Risks

“Taking risks is one of the most important ingredients in life. If we don’t take risks to step out of the boxes that we construct for ourselves, we don’t experience new things that may challenge us – and may change the way we view life, people, ourselves, etc. So in order for growth to occur, I think we need to take risks. And I certainly heard that from all of the women that I spoke with [for the film] and, in retrospect, I look at my own life and I do see that the risks I took – and I took many –  some calculated, some just happened. They paid off no matter how uncomfortable they were.  If you wanted to categorize them as right and wrong, no matter how wrong they were, they all paid off – and they all led to this self-reliance this resilience that, I think we don’t really recognize until we’re a bit older.”

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For More on Melissa Davey
The Beyond Sixty Project website
Our first conversation with Melissa (our 5th episode)
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Other Podcast Episodes You May Like
I’m Not Done. Are You? – Patti Temple Rocks
Retired, But Not Done Yet – Dr. Cynthia Barnett
How Life Hacks Can Help Make Your Retirement the Best Time of Your Life – Sam Horn
What’s Next for You? – Jeff Tidwell
Will You Be an Entrepreneur in Your Second Act Career? – Dorie Clark
With the Freedom to Retire, Where Will You Plant Your New Tree? – Don Ezra
From the NBA Hardwood to the Altar – Steve Javie
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Advances in science and technology are creating healthier and longer lives.

Our guest today has referred to it as a Longevity Dividend. But increased longevity leads to many questions. How can you maintain health and fitness in this era of longevity? How does longevity affect your retirement planning, and how will you grow and protect your non-financial assets? How will you invest your extra years? And how can you experiment with new ways of living and working that are evolving?

 

Andrew Scott, is the co-author of the new book The New Long Life with Lynda Gratton. In their first book, The 100-Year Life, they laid out the sweeping changes that longer lives are introducing that will lead individuals governments, educational institutions, and corporations to adapt in innovative ways.

Their new book is a practical guide on how to navigate and thrive in an era of longer lives. They introduce a new framework for a multi-stage life, encompassing working longer (and differently), ageing well, cultivating good health and meaningful relationships.

We discuss with Andrew:

  • How we should be thinking about ageing in this era of longevity
  • How a multi-stage life unfolds
  • How people can create a new map of life – and get better at navigating transitions
  • With lifelong learning becoming more important, what makes for a supportive learning environment
  • The impact that technology and AI will have on longer lives
  • How governments, educational systems and corporations need to change with longer lives
  • How he sees intergenerational relationships evolving in the future
  • What are we learning from COVID-19 that relates to longer lives – and what he’s doing differently in the pandemic

Andrew joins us from London.

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Bio

Andrew J Scott is Professor of Economics, former Deputy Dean at London Business School and Research Fellow at the Centre for Economic Policy Research.

 His research focuses on longevity, an ageing society, and fiscal policy and debt management and has been published widely in leading journals. His book with Lynda Gratton, The 100-Year Life, has been published in 15 languages, is an Amazon bestseller and was runner up in the FT/McKinsey Business Book of the Year Award 2016 and Japanese Business Book of the Year Award 2017. His recent 2020 book, The New Long Life, considers how the challenges and opportunities of social and technological ingenuity might shape a new age of longer lives.

He was Managing Editor for the Royal Economic Society’s Economic Journal and Non-Executive Director for the UK’s Financial Services Authority 2009-2013. He has been an advisor on policy to a range of governments and government departments. He is currently on the advisory board of the UK’s Office for Budget Responsibility, the Cabinet Office Honours Committee (Science and Technology), co-founder of The Longevity Forum, a member of the UK government’s Longevity Council and the WEF council on Japan and a consulting scholar at Stanford University’s Center on Longevity.

With a unique perspective as a global economist, professor, and government advisor, he draws upon a range of disciplines. His ground-breaking work on longevity, economics, and the value and effect technology and longevity combined, will have on the wider society, is shaped by his professional connections to academia, industry, social pioneers and policymakers around the world.

Andrew previously held positions at Oxford University, London School of Economics and Harvard University. His MA is from Oxford, his M.Sc. from the London School of Economics and his D.Phil from Oxford University.

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Wise Quotes

On the Longevity Dividend

“…we discovered to a new degree, that age is malleable. There are things we can do to help how we age, how we exercise, how[ we change] our environment, how we live our life. And that means we’re aging differently. Yes, there are more older people, but how our aging is changing – and that’s a great opportunity to be seized. And if you think about what’s really happened, did I say most of these years of extra life are healthy? Not all of them. So that period at the end of life has got longer, which is a challenge. But most of those years have been healthy. So what’s really happened is we kind of added something on to middle age – from sort of 50 plus – that’s where most of those extra years of life have come from. And people tend to think that aging is about just the end of life’s got longer, but really it’s about all of life.”

On Measuring Age Differently

“And the metaphor I give is, imagine your day went from being 24 to 32 hours long. That’s not just about what you do differently at the end of the day. It’s what you did differently over the whole day. And that’s I think the challenge we’ve got, – how do make the most of this longer life and in particular, how do we invest in making sure that our future self is as healthy as possible? So there are new risks around, but there are also great opportunities, but the public narrative tends to focus on the negative. Oh, we must be older because we’re living longer – as opposed to the good news that we’re living better. At the heart of this is our reliance upon chronological age – we measure age chronologically – how many candles on your birthday cake, which means you’re living for longer, you’re kind of older. But we really need to think about biological age. Are we fit and healthy? I also would argue that we need to think in a more forward-looking manner, not how many candles are on our birthday cake, but how many more birthday cakes do we still have to come – and using that people are got a lot more future they need to prepare for. So it’s an opportunity.”

On the Multi-Stage Life

“So we’ve said there’s going be a multi-stage life –  and a multi-stage career, where you may have three or four different stages to your career. One may be focused around making money. One may be about balancing your family responsibilities. One could be doing something entrepreneurial. And of course, that’s already beginning to emerge. You’re seeing people at 50 plus being one of the most popular age groups for starting up a company, for instance. And just, as I said earlier, we invented teenagers and pensioners. We’re starting to see people behave very differently in their forties, fifties, and sixties, and doing these mid-career transitions. So many people that come up to me and either said, You know,  this is exactly what I’ve been doing or saying, I realized now I’ve got another 25 years ahead of me. I need to reskill retool, take a break, and do something else.”

On Navigating Transitions

“I think it’s going to be a really big skill cause you know, the longer life goes on, your ability to think long term is going to become ever more important. Your ability to invest in your future self is going to be key. And that’s something that not everyone finds easy. And then as you say, transitions will become more common. And how do I plan for them? What can I expect and how do I deal with them? I think one of the challenges here is that we don’t really know how to live these long lives. Because our parent’s generation isn’t going to really give us much of a guide because we’re on average living longer than them. So you need to look around and sort of see what people are doing. See what experiments are happening. Just as it took a long while to work out what to do with teenagers and how they spend their time, and how it took a long while to work out what retirement was, what kind of exploring these sort of mid-life transitions as well.”

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The New Long Life Book

Amazon US

Amazon UK

Website

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Related Podcasts You May Like

What Can You Do to Age Better? – Anna Dixon

The Skill Set for Life’s Transitions – Bruce Feiler

How to Build a Non-Profit Encore Career – Betsy Werley

Design Your Life and Get Unstuck – Dave Evans

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Related Book Review

The 100-Year Life 

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Dr. Anna Dixon, CEO of the Centre for Ageing Better, joins our retirement podcast to discuss her new book, The Age of Ageing Better?: A Manifesto For Our Future. With an ageing population, governments and corporations have been slow to adapt, but there’s a lot within our control when it comes to ageing well. 

We discuss:

  • The mission of UK’s Centre for Ageing Better
  • What actions governments and institutions can take to create a society that can age better
  • The most common misperceptions about ageing
  • What people can do to combat ‘day-to day’ ageism
  • Why she writes of The Loneliness Myth
  • Life lessons from the pandemic – what we should keep and let go of
  • How we should be preparing for retirement today
  • Her advice for those of us who want to age better

Dr. Dixon joins us from London.

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Bio

Dr. Anna Dixon is Ageing Better’s Chief Executive, leading the vision of creating a society where everyone enjoys a good later life.

Anna has more than 15 years experience of working at the interface of research, policy, and practice. She has a successful track record of working at the highest levels of government to bring about positive change. Throughout her career, she has been committed to ensuring the voice and needs of the citizen are at the heart of her work.

Anna joined Ageing Better in September 2015 and has taken it from start-up to become an established organisation.

Prior to joining Ageing Better, Anna was Director of Strategy and Chief Analyst at the Department of Health from 2013-2015. She has also held positions at The King’s Fund, the London School of Economics and Political Science, the Department of Health and the European Observatory on Health Systems and Policies.

In 2005-6 she was awarded a Harkness Fellowship in Health Policy by the Commonwealth Fund of New York. She has a PhD in Social Policy from the London School of Economics and Political Science.

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Wise Quotes

On Ageing Populations

“This age shift that I describe with many more of us living longer, and effectively the face of the population changing, with this many more older people. And it does mean redesigning work so that people can stay in work for much longer. It means both adapting our current homes, but also making sure that as we build new homes for the future, that we design them so that they’re fit for an aging population. They remain good places to live, even if we develop maybe dementia or mobility issues or different things that we might want to do or need in our later lives. So lots of actions, I suppose the key thing is just to say, it’s action across all parts of society and it’s action, both from national governments, but also from the private sector and the third sector.”

 

On Redesigning Retirement

“If we’re talking about a hundred-year life, the expectations that we get to a certain birthday and it’s a time to hang up our boots. I think we do need to rethink [retirement] – and many people already are. People are transitioning differently, sometimes requesting part-time work to be able to get a different work-life balance. Many people who at least enjoy their work, and physically able to, are continuing to work. Obviously, other people are having to work out of necessity. Let’s be clear, retirement savings are not what they were, the sort of pension, and Social Security. Certainly here in the UK is not very generous and people are having to continue to work to top up their income to maintain any sort of reasonable standard of living. So I think we need to get more realistic about a longer working life and the different sort of retirement rather than one in which we sort of from one day to the next stop work and then expect to have saved enough to enjoy [retirement].”

 

On the Longevity Gap

“Here, the sort of rule of thumb for a public pension is a third of our working life in retirement. I think it just doesn’t stack up with the gains, but we also have to remember that those gains in life expectancy are not equally shared. So we have about a 15-year gap in life expectancy between the richest and the poorest in this country. I imagine there are such similar disparities in the US and that therefore means that some people may have to start work earlier. They will also be dying at younger ages, and we don’t want them to have to sort of suffer in a way, a short retirement because of that. So we must also be looking to make sure that those gains in life expectancy are more equally shared.”

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For More on Dr. Anna Dixon

Read the book:  The Age of Ageing Better?: A Manifesto For Our Future

Centre for Ageing Better   – you’ll find a wealth of useful information here

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Related Podcasts You May Like

How Seniors Are Saving the World With Activism – Thelma Reese

We’re All Ageing. Are You Up for a Bolder Approach? – Carl Honoré

Are You in the Driver’s Seat? – Cindy Cox-Roman

The Skill Set for Life’s Transitions – Bruce Feiler

Retirement Planning Includes Getting Good at Getting Older – Rabbi Laura Geller

How Can You Be Better with Age? – Alan Castel

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We help people who are retiring from their primary career – and aren’t done yet – discover what’s next.

A long retirement is a terrible thing to waste. And a meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident.

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Our guest, Cindy Cox-Roman, a market researcher and gerontologist, joins our retirement podcast to share her perspective on the vital role of Personal Agency.

Psychologist Albert Bandura defines personal agency as “the human capability to influence one’s functioning and the course of events by one’s actions.” As you plan for your life in retirement, it’s wise to include personal agency so you can be in the driver’s seat of your retirement.

I discuss with Cindy:

  • How she became interested in Gerontology
  • What themes are emerging in her research on people 50+
  • What personal agency is – and why it’s important
  • How personal agency can change over the life course – and any gender differences she sees
  • What influences agency
  • How agency can be strengthened
  • What she’s learned about mindful aging – and her advice on aging mindfully
  • Her new additional role with HelpAge USA

Cindy joins us from Washington, DC.

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Bio

Cindy Cox-Roman is a market researcher, gerontologist, and founder of WIT Consulting LLC, a strategic research firm based in Washington, DC. She works with clients to bring the voice of older people to the design of products, services, and systems. As of October 1, Cindy became the Interim CEO of HelpAge USA, the only US nonprofit that is exclusively focused on the wellbeing and inclusion of older people in low- and middle-income countries.

​Earlier in her career, Cindy headed up the New York Custom Research practice of Yankelovich Partners, a social trend research firm studying the attitudes and opinions of the American public and business leaders. Before that, as a Vice-President at Y&R, she led the development of consumer insights and strategy for global advertising campaigns. She also helped establish the company’s first office in Budapest, Hungary, soon after the Berlin Wall came down in the early 1990s.

Cindy holds a Bachelor’s degree from the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University, and a Master’s degree in Gerontology from the University of Southern California. Recently she has been conducting independent research on older people and personal agency, or the idea of being in the driver’s seat of your life. She’s passionate about this topic and is here to talk more about it today.

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Wise Quotes

On Uncertainty

“And [the research] is a work in progress, but I’ll share some themes that have come out, which are also supported by other academic research. And they’re very clear and they’re very compelling. A major theme is a disconnect between what we often hear about people in their fifties, sixties, seventies, et cetera – that this is the time when you really know yourself. You have life figured out. You have a lot of self-confidence. You see these quotes all the time in interviews with celebrities and things like that. And certainly, there can be a lot of that, but there is a disconnect between that and the reality that for a lot of people, this can be a time of great uncertainty and that’s not talked about as much. So in the first research study that I did, I talked qualitatively to primarily women, but also some men about this time in their life.  And one thing I asked a typical research question: If there were three words to describe this time in your life, what would they be? And there was a wide variety of things, but one consistent theme made it clear that this is what I’d call an ‘UN’ time – because the words that people tended to consistently use to describe this time of the life were words like unpredictable, unsure, and unsettling. Part of it can be the political environment and the economic environment, et cetera. Those are all [key] things, but this was more about internal uncertainty and being unsettled. And as I probed further, it really came down to the fact that for the first time in their life, there is no roadmap.”

On Personal Agency

“So another great metaphor is being in the driver’s seat of your life. So when you have agency, you’re in the driver’s seat of your life. So the travel analogy comes up a lot here, but you’re figuring out where you’re going. You’re figuring out what speed you’re going. You’re figuring out what paths you take, what road you take… Are you going to follow GPS? – or are you going to go a back way? It’s the opposite of being in the passenger seat, where you are completely at the whim of whoever’s behind the wheel and you might be able to offer a suggestion, but you’re not actively in charge. So I really like that metaphor and it seems to fit well. And it’s important because having a sense of agency is really directly tied to our life satisfaction because deciding where we’re going to go and how fast we’re going to go. And what routes we’re going to take is linked to our, our deepest desires and our motivations and our sense of our uniqueness. So it helps us be happier. We may not always get what we want, but we have a sense that we are where we’re trying to head.”

On Losing Personal Agency

“And a lot of what we talk about when we think about Agency is that the very real social norms and social pressures and social reaction from family and friends and society that we can face. So I’ll just wrap up by just saying that in my research that I did, and I found this in academic research, is that it is a fact that we can begin to lose a sense of personal agency or being in the driver’s seat of our life in our fifties and sixties. So in the survey that I had done, there was a statement: Do I agree or disagree – I’m in the driver’s seat of my life. And women 45 to 55, fifty percent strongly agreed with that statement compared to only a third of women, 75 to 84, who strongly agreed. So people themselves can feel a loss of agency for a bunch of reasons, which is a problem because it can make us feel unfulfilled and bitter.”

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For More on Cindy Cox-Roman

You can follow Cindy on Twitter @CindyCoxRoman

Business website: www.witconsulting.net

HelpAge website: www.helpageusa.org

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We mentioned an autobiographical reflection exercise in this episode. I decided against posting an isolated exercise, because upon reflection, I think it’s best to do this with someone trained in guided autobiography.

A great resource is The Birren Center for Autobiographical Studies, created by the late James E. Birren, the founding dean of the USC Leonard Davis School of Gerontology.

Another resource I’d recommend a fellow Life Planning Network & Encore Network member Dr. John Countryman. Here’s a short interview  with John Countryman

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Related Podcast Episodes with Examples of Personal Agency 

How Seniors Are Saving the World With Activism – Thelma Reese

Retired, But Not Done Yet – Dr. Cynthia Barnett

I’m Not Done. Are You? – Patti Temple Rocks

The Skill Set for Life’s Transitions – Bruce Feiler

Your Retirement Won’t Come with a Road Map – Carol Hymowitz

How to Build a Non-Profit Encore Career – Betsy Werley

Advice for Successful Career Women Transitioning to Retirement – Helen Dennis

Retirement Planning Includes Getting Good at Getting Older – Rabbi Laura Geller

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A long retirement is a terrible thing to waste. And a meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident.

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Schedule a call today to discuss how we can help you.

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2020 is changing life in many ways, including the way we work.  The trend toward working virtually was already well underway, but now remote work from home jobs may become more common going forward. Working virtually expands options for older workers who want to work longer, but with greater flexibility.

Kerry Hannon joins our podcast to talk about her new book Great Pajama Jobs: Your Compete Guide to Working from Home. She notes how remote work from home jobs level the playing field by focusing attention on performance and productivity.

I discuss with Kerry her views on:

  • The benefits of working virtually for mature workers – and the upside for employers.
  • If it’s possible for people to redeploy their skills in new areas, while also shifting to remote work from home jobs.
  • How someone knows if they’re a good fit for working virtually.
  • How to be successful – and happy –  working virtually.
  • How people working remotely should approach networking.
  • What someone who wants to create ongoing remote work with their current company should do.
  • What people should pay attention to in a job search targeting remote work from home jobs, beyond the technical skills a job requires.

Kerry joins us from Washington, DC.

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Bio

Kerry is the best-selling and award-winning author of 14 books. Her latest book, Great Pajama Jobs: Your Compete Guide to Working from Home is now available. Never Too Old to Get Rich: The Entrepreneur’s Guide to Starting a Business Mid-Life, published by John Wiley & Sons, in 2019, and is a #1 bestseller on Amazon and was selected by The Washington Post for its Book-of-the-Month Club in September.

Other best-selling and award-winning books penned by Kerry include: Money Confidence: Really Smart Financial Moves for Newly Single WomenGreat Jobs for Everyone 50+: Finding Work That Keeps You Happy and Healthy . . . And Pays the BillsLove Your Job: The New Rules for Career Happiness, Getting the Job You Want after 50, and What’s Next?: Finding Your Passion and Your Dream Job in Your Forties, Fifties and Beyond.

She has spent more than three decades covering all aspects of careers, business and personal finance as a columnist, editor, and writer for the nation’s leading media companies.

Kerry is currently an expert columnist and regular contributor to The New York Times, MarketWatchForbes, and is personal finance and entrepreneurship expert on the PBS website NextAvenue.org. Her areas of expertise include small business, personal finance, retirement, wealth management and career transition.

She has appeared as a career and financial expert on The Dr. Phil Show, ABC, CBS,, CNBC, NBC Nightly News, NPR, Yahoo Finance and PBS.

In addition to delivering practical advice for mid-life workers seeking to land rewarding jobs, find financial and personal rewards and ride the age wave of longevity with grace, a key passion for Kerry is helping and advising women on how to take charge of their own financial planning, at all stages of their lives, to prepare themselves for a financially secure future.

Her earlier books include Suddenly Single: Money Skills for Divorcees and Widows and The 10-Minute Guide to Retirement for Women.

Kerry is a former National Press Foundation Fellow, a former Fellow of the Columbia Journalism School and the Robert N. Butler Columbia Aging Center’s Age Boom Academy. She is also a former Metlife Foundation and New America Media Fellow on Aging.

She has testified before Congress about the importance of older workers.

Kerry graduated from Shady Side Academy in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where she serves on the Board of Visitors. She received a bachelor’s degree from Duke University, where she is currently a member of an editorial board. Kerry lives in Washington, D.C., with her husband, documentary producer and editor Cliff Hackel, and her Labrador Retriever, Zena.

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Wise Quotes

On the Benefits of Working Remotely

“I really truly believe that for older workers, the opportunity to work remotely offers several benefits that you might not have considered. And the number one really is truly getting at the core of ageism, right? This is the ‘ism’ that has been around forever. And nobody really talks about it in a concrete way that helps move the ball forward, but we’re all very acutely aware of it. Here’s the deal. When you’re working remotely, you have the opportunity to be judged on your performance and on your productivity. So you’re not being judged by a cover, but really what’s inside and what you produce. So it sounds a little simplistic, but I honestly think this option offers a great opportunity for experienced workers to be considered on an even playing field by their performance.”

On Networking as a Remote Worker

“…My favorite little slogan is networking is one letter away from not working. So it’s not one of those things that’s expendable. You have got to network and you can’t be ‘too cool for school’, especially if you are looking for a job.  Don’t be bashful. Look at everyone. You know, it’s the only way. And I’m meaning this that you truly get hired these days is you got to know somebody who knows somebody – or you have to have some kind of connection to that employer. [If you] have somebody who can refer you, they’re not going to get you that job, but if they can get you in the door for that first interview, you can shine and sell yourself at that point. But it truly is getting somebody to give you the inside scoop about who you’re going to talk to there, who you can talk to, what the culture is like and what is out there and the best way to find out.”

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For More on Kerry Hannon

KerryHannon.com

Her new book: Great Pajama Jobs: Your Complete Guide to Working from Home

Her 2019 book: Never Too Old to Get Rich: The Entrepreneur’s Guide to Starting a Business Mid-Life

Visit Kerry’s Website

Follow Kerry on Twitter: @KerryHannon

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Related Podcast Episodes You May Like

I’m Not Done. Are You? – Patti Temple Rocks

The Skill Set for Life’s Transitions – Bruce Feiler

Retired, But Not Done Yet – Dr. Cynthia Barnett

A Second Act after The Law – Mark Shaiken

How to Make a Wise Career Switch – Dawn Graham

Why People Make a Career Change with Purpose Top of Mind – Chris Farrell

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We help people who are retiring, but not done yet, discover what’s next.

A long retirement is a terrible thing to waste. And a meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident.

We help you design the life and/or the second career you want.

Schedule a call today to discuss how we can help you.

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