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You may be familiar with cognitive bias from behavioral economics. But being aware of common thinking traps and how to elude them can help you in your retirement planning and in your day-to day life, including making you a wiser consumer. Dr. Woo-kyoung Ahn, a Psychology professor at Yale, is the author of the new book Thinking 101: How to Reason Better to Live Better. She joins us for an enlightening conversation about how we can be more keenly aware of our cognitive tendencies, sharpen our thinking and duck thinking errors that can have real-life implications.

We discuss:

  • How confirmation bias works – and how it gets in our way
  • Negativity bias – and why loss aversion carries more weight than gains do
  • Overconfidence and the fluency effect
  • Estimating better and the planning fallacy
  • How marketers use cognitive bias – and how to be a wiser consumer
  • Applications of the research in daily life
  • How cognitive psychology can help at the individual and societal levels

Dr. Ahn joins us from New Haven.

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Bio

Woo-kyoung Ahn is the John Hay Whitney Professor of Psychology at Yale University. After receiving her PhD in Psychology from the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, she was Assistant Professor at Yale University and Associate Professor at Vanderbilt University. Her research on thinking biases has been funded by NIH. She is a fellow of the American Psychological Association and the Association for Psychological Science.

For More on Dr. Woo-kyoung Ahn

Thinking 101: How to Reason Better to Live Better

Website

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Mentioned in This Episode

BTS Music Video (The dance sequence Dr. Ahn uses in her class is from 1:18 to 1:24. )

(Video of my attempt to do this is currently unavailable…)

Breaking the Age Code – Dr. Becca Levy

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Podcast Episodes You May Like

Chatter & Your Inner Voice – Ethan Kross

Think Big – Dr. Grace Lordan

The Expectation Effect – David Robson

Smarter Tomorrow – Elizabeth Ricker

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How to Win the Retirement Game

(It Might Just Be the Most Important Game of Your Life)

What Readers Are Saying:

“Definitely the best book I’ve read on the non-financial aspects of retirement.”

“I wish I had this book when I retired.”

“…the book is amazingly readable, and chock full of insights.”

“This is the book I didn’t know I needed after retiring!”

“This is a great gift for anyone anticipating retirement years or already in the thick of it.”

Amazon    Barnes & Noble    Bookshop.org

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Wise Quotes

On Estimating & Planning Better

“…what I do to overcome the planning fallacy in myself is I just basically add 50% of the time that I initially estimate. And I try not to negotiate with myself on this. And sometimes 50% was not enough. My favorite story was I was planning I was preparing for a lecture on the planning fallacy, and I thought It’ll be done within four days. And I said, Okay, that means a week. No. It took two weeks, because there’s so many studies that I read and then I said, No, this one doesn’t work. No, this is not interesting. So it took two weeks. So, I think the best thing to do is just to assume the planning fallacy always happens a hundred percent – and then just double the estimate.”

On Negativity Bias

“…some researchers say that we have actually evolved to be more sensitive to loss and negative information. And it’s because throughout most of our human history, the resources have been really scarce. So in that case, any loss, even if it’s a small one, can be a direct threat to our survival. So we have evolved to protect what we possess, what our family has. We have to be very, very sensitive to that. And so this loss aversion shouldn’t be such a big deal in the current society because most of us, we can lose [a bit]. If there’s a jug of expired milk, if it expired yesterday, for instance, you should be able to let it go. It’s not a direct threat to you, but we may feel like, Oh, I can’t really let it go to waste, I might be able to use it for pancakes or something else. It might not be a big loss, but we can’t really let it go.”

On Cognitive Psychology

“The subfield of cognitive psychology that I study is a higher level reasoning processes, the thinking processes, basically. And many students take my course thinking that they want to think better because they can outsmart everybody else in the room. They want to have an edge, or a head start. But I don’t want them to want them to learn that kind of thing. To me, thinking better means being more fair to oneself as well as to other people.”

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About Retirement Wisdom

Delaying retirement? Many of my clients are. But they’re using this time to invest in their future.

You could wait until you retire and ask What Now? – and scramble to play catch up.

Isn’t now a better time to proactively explore your options and intentionally design your new life?

Schedule a call to find how how the Designing Your Life process (developed by Bill Burnett & Dave Evans at Stanford) can help you unlock a new direction. Apply the same principles of design thinking that Nike and other leading companies use to design your future. Learn more about my One and One coaching and small group programs. Take the first step toward your new life today.

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About Your Podcast Host 
Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career. He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking.
Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1.5 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes. Business Insider has recognized him as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference.

He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

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Intro and Outro voiceovers by Ross Huguet.

 

Delaying retirement? Use this time wisely to prepare well for the transition.

If you wait until you’re asking What Now? you’re behind the curve.

Don’t lag behind.

Ask a better question:

How can I design the retirement I’ve worked so hard to earn?

Schedule a call – get well-prepared for your graduation from full-time work.

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Retirement sounds simple, but it has many dimensions to it.

On this retirement podcast, here are some of the areas we’ve explored recently:

  • the semi-retirement option
  • what women need to plan differently for in retirement
  • how small acts can make a big difference
  • how to figure out where to retire
  • how to retire early
  • and five secrets to lasting love

Click on the links below to listen to the full conversations:

The Unretirement Life – Richard Eisenberg

Key Lifestyle & Financial Decisions as We Age – Marjorie Fox

Changing the World One Small Act at a Time – Brad Aronson

Where to Retire – Silvia Ascarelli

Buy This, Not That – “Sam Dogen”

The Go-Giver Marriage – Ana Mann

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Retirement Podcast Episodes You May Like

Best of 2022 – Part 2

Best of 2022 – Part 1

Best of 2021

Best of – On Wellness

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Interested in more retirement podcast conversations?

Visit retirementwisdom.com

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About Your Retirement Podcast Host

Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career. He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking.
Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1.5 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes. Business Insider has recognized him as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference.

He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

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Intro and Outro voiceovers by Ross Huguet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Retirement is about much more than money. Is your retirement planning leaving you exposed on either side of the retirement equation? Increasingly, pre-retirees are enlisting the services on professionals on both sides. That way they’ll be well prepared on how they’ll be investing their money – and their time – to create the life in retirement they’ve worked so hard to build.

Tony Hixon and Scott Miller join us to discuss how this dual approach to retirement planning can give you an edge.

Tony and Scott join us from Ohio.

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Bios

Tony Hixon is co-founder and Chief Operating Officer of Hixon Zuercher Capital Management. As Chief Operating Officer, Tony is responsible for overseeing the administration of the firm. In addition to managing the firm’s operations, Tony serves on the firm’s Investment Committee and is a co-Portfolio Manager, an Analyst, and Trader.

Tony has experience providing investment services since 2003 and providing financial advisory services since 1999. Prior to co-founding Hixon Zuercher Capital Management, Tony worked at a CPA firm for nearly four years specializing in accounting, tax planning, and tax preparation for high net worth individuals.

In 2021, Tony released his book Retirement Stepping Stones: Find Meaning, Live with Purpose and Leave a Legacy.  In it, he recounts the tragic story that happened to his mom, Pam Hixon, and instructs the reader on how they can prepare for a meaningful retirement beyond the numbers.  His book is available on all major online retailers or by visiting www.tonyhixon.com/book.  The Retirement Stepping Stones Workbook serves to elevate the experience to set you on a path to retirement preparedness is available for download at www.tonyhixon.com.

Scott Miller serves as a Life Coach at Hixon Zuercher Capital Management. His primary role is to help clients transition into retirement and beyond by helping them navigate some of the challenges that arise. He assists clients clarifying goals, identifying obstacles and creating strategies for overcoming each obstacle. In short, Scott helps clients find meaning, live with purpose and leave a legacy!

Originally from Wooster, Ohio, Dr. Miller moved to Findlay in 1989 where he began practicing dentistry. In 2021, Scott retired from dentistry having served patients for more than 32 years.  Scott has extensive experience with teaching leadership skills and helping people get to know themselves, asking the question, “Who am I and where do I want to go in life?”  For example, he has helped students make the transition from high school to the next phase of their life and figure out what they want to do in their careers. And now he is taking people from their careers to the next step of finding significance in the second half of their lives.

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For More on Tony Hixon & Scott Miller

Retirement Stepping Stones

Website

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Podcast Episodes You May Like

Retirement Stepping Stones – Tony Hixon

When Will You Flip the Switch? – Dr. Barbara O’Neill

Why Retirement is About Much More Than Money – Ted Kaufman & Bruce Hiland

Breaking the Age Code – Dr. Becca Levy

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Win Your Retirement Game

What Readers Are Saying about Win the Retirement Game:

“Definitely the best book I’ve read on the non-financial aspects of retirement.”

“I wish I had this book when I retired.”

“…the book is amazingly readable, and chock full of insights.”

“This is the book I didn’t know I needed after retiring!”

“This is a great gift for anyone anticipating retirement years or already in the thick of it.”

Amazon    Barnes & Noble    Bookshop.org

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About Retirement Wisdom

Delaying retirement? Many of my clients are. But they’re using this time to invest in their future.

You could wait until you retire and ask What Now? – and scramble to play catch up.

Isn’t now a better time to proactively explore your options and intentionally design your new life?

Schedule a call to find how how the Designing Your Life process (developed by Bill Burnett & Dave Evans at Stanford) can help you unlock a new direction. Apply the same principles of design thinking that Nike and other leading companies use to design your future. Learn more about our One and One coaching and small group programs. Take the first step toward your new life today.

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About Your Podcast Host 
Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career. He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking.
Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1.5 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes. Business Insider has recognized him as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference.

He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

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Intro and Outro voiceovers by Ross Huguet.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How do your emotions affect your relationship with money? My guest is Mikelann Valterra, who is is a money coach. We discuss what a money coach does and how it’s different from – and complementary to – what a financial advisor and financial planner does. Planning for retirement requires wise choices and as Mikelann notes “You can do anything. But you can’t do everything.” Are your beliefs about money helping you make smart choices or getting in your way?

Mikelann Valterra joins us from Seattle.

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Bio

Mikelann is a money coach, writer, speaker and leader in the field of personal finance.  She has been in private practice over 20 years, working with private individuals on how to manage cash flow in an easier way, while also uncovering and addressing their own unique financial psychology. Her clients experience less stress, less debt, and more savings and clarity about the future. In addition to her private practice, she is a sought after speaker who fuses the fields of psychology, spirituality, brain science and personal finance to deliver riveting seminars that transform a person’s relationship to money in a lasting way. Her passion is to help professionals escape the money fog, feel more in control of their finances and create a life they love. She believes everyone can truly heal their relationship to money.

She is the author of Why Women Earn Less: How to make what you’re really worth, as well as multiple workbooks and audios on personal finance. Her blog goes back almost twenty years. Mikelann is quoted in numerous published books and has appeared on dozens of radio shows, television spots and in newspapers across the United States. She has also written for Forbes and credit.com.

Mikelann possesses a deep understanding of people’s pain and frustration around money. She has a bachelors in economics, a masters in psychology, and is also an accredited financial counselor (AFC®). She possesses more than two decades of helping people experience greater financial control and success. She knows it really is possible to heal your relationship to money and leave financial anxiety behind, forever. She is based in Seattle, Washington.

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For More on Mikelann Valterra

Website

Free e-book: How to Stop Stressing About Money & Create a Life You Love

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Podcast Episodes You May Like

The Emotional Side of Retiring – Kate Schroeder

The Key Decisions for Retirement Success – Wade Pfau

Lifestyle and Financial Decisions As We Age – Marjorie Fox, JD, CFP®

Retirement Planning Considerations for Women – Russ Thornton

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Win The Retirement Game

What Readers Are Saying:

“Definitely the best book I’ve read on the non-financial aspects of retirement.”

“Win The Retirement Game is well written, easy to read, and hard to put down. I highly recommend this book not just to those about to be or recently retired, but to anyone anticipating or experiencing a life transition.”

“This is a great gift for anyone anticipating retirement years or already in the thick of it.”

“…the book is amazingly readable, and chock full of insights.”

Amazon    Barnes & Noble    Bookshop.org

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Wise Quotes

Money & Emotions

“It’s a huge question leading up to retirement, right? Do we have enough money? Can we retire? It’s a big, big conversation. But what do we call post- retirement? There’s so many ways that people go work-optional nowadays, it’s not as black and white as it used to be. But money is so emotional, partly because of how we were raised around money. We all have these really long money stories throughout our lives. So different things that have happened around money. We can also talk about our individual money personalities. There are just so many differences between people, partly because of how they were raised around money, but believe it or not, part of it’s our wiring. Part of it is our individual brain chemistries lead us to feel and act differently about money than our partners.”

On the Big Emotional Challenges with Money

“Overspending, under-earning, and the inability to communicate around money with their beloved, with their partners. Overspending is a very emotional thing. A lot of it comes from childhood, again, back to those feelings of deprivation, fear, whatever it is. And so I’m spending to fill this whole void again. I know that sounds odd, but many of us do spend to feel this emotional void because you can never get enough of what you don’t really need. I know that sounds like a Zen koan, but I know every one of your listeners has heard of the concept of emotional spending – spending to meet what’s actually an emotional need. And so that’s probably one of the biggest issues because in our lovely retired life, we want to be as thoughtful and conscious with our money as we can so that we can use it to live our best life, not have it leak out because we’re spending emotionally. We all get it. We’ve all heard it. Retail therapy. Can I spend money to make myself feel better? That’s really what it comes down to. Can I spend money to make myself feel better? And perhaps there’s a better way to make yourself feel better than Nordstrom’s.”

On Being a Money Coach

“I’m a Money Coach and just to be clear with your listeners, I don’t do investments. I’m not a financial planner. I work with people obviously on the relationship to money as we’ve been talking about, but also how to manage your cash flow. I hate the word budget. Sounds like a diet, right? But I love helping people craft a spending plan. And one of the really wonderful things about whether you’re fully retired or semi-retired, you have more time. You have more free time. So how do you create a spending plan that gives you the life that you want. Some people have been waiting their whole lives to have some more free time. So when I work with people that are fully retired, work-optional, semi-retired, all that good stuff, eventually we get to the place where we are working on a monthly spending plan and an annual spending plan. And we are looking at what do you want to protect and what are your hobbies – and what are your passions? Because so many people have spent a lifetime focused on other people. And so this is now Me time, right? This is the time where we can spend time on ourselves, our passions, our passion projects, hobbies, volunteering, all the wonderful things that you’ve talked about on so many wonderful episodes of your podcast. So the money piece is we want to make sure that we’ve got the money for these passions.”

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About Retirement Wisdom

Delaying retirement? Many of my clients are. But they’re using this time now to invest in their future.

Don’t wait until you retire and ask What Now? Isn’t now a better time to start to design your next life?

Schedule a call to find how how the Designing Your Life process (developed by Bill Burnett & Dave Evans at Stanford) can help you unlock a new direction. Apply the same principles of design thinking that Nike and other leading companies use to design your future. Learn more about our One and One coaching and small group programs. Take the first step toward your new life today.

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About Your Podcast Host 
Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career. He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking.
Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1.5 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes. Business Insider has recognized him as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference.

He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

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Intro and Outro voiceovers by Ross Huguet.

 

 

Dr. Jordan Grumet brings a unique perspective to the topics of early retirement and a second act career. He has seen first hand the regrets of patients facing the end of their lives. His new book, Taking Stock: A Hospice Doctor’s Advice on Financial Independence, Building Wealth, and Living a Regret-Free Life will inspire you to step back, reflect on what’s most important to you, and live your life fully now – not someday, which isn’t guaranteed to any of us.

We discuss:

  • The book that changed his life
  • What he’s learned from his hospice patients
  • The benefits of a Life Review – and why you should do one now
  • How his identity has evolved since his early retirement
  • How money can distract us from what’s truly important in life
  • Why you should beware of The One More Year Syndrome
  • How the FIRE movement is evolving
  • The role of work in retirement
  • How you can benefits from the art of subtraction

Jordan Grumet joins us from Illinois.

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Comments, Suggestions or Questions You’d Like Me to Address on the Podcast? Leave a Voice Message Here

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Bio

Dr. Jordan Grumet is the author of Taking Stock: A Hospice Doctor’s Advice on Financial Independence, Building Wealth, and Living a Regret-Free Life.

After graduating from the University of Michigan, Jordan received his medical degree from Northwestern University and began practicing internal medicine in Northbrook, Illinois. He is currently an associate medical director at Journeycare Hospice. Also known as Doc G, he created and hosts the podcast Earn & Invest.

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For More on Dr. Jordan Grumet 

Taking Stock: A Hospice Doctor’s Advice on Financial Independence, Building Wealth, and Living a Regret-Free Life

Website

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Podcast Episodes You May Like

Changing the World One Small Act at a Time – Brad Aronson

The Emotional Side of Retiring – Kate Schroeder

A Round of Golf with My Father – William Damon (On Life Review)

Buy This, Not That – “Sam Dogen”

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Mentioned in this Episode

The White Coat Investor

Why Do We Need Reminders of What Matters Most? (This is a blog post about the colleague I mentioned who died right before his retirement after putting it off for a number of ‘just one more’ years)

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What Readers Are Saying About Win The Retirement Game

“…the book is amazingly readable, and chock full of insights.”

“Definitely the best book I’ve read on the non-financial aspects of retirement.”

“Win The Retirement Game is well written, easy to read, and hard to put down. I highly recommend this book not just to those about to be or recently retired, but to anyone anticipating or experiencing a life transition.”

“This is a great gift for anyone anticipating retirement years or already in the thick of it.”

“…the book is amazingly readable, and chock full of insights.”

Amazon    Barnes & Noble    Bookshop.org

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Wise Quotes

On Deferring Living

“The sadness was maybe he should have had his bags packed years and years before. And it’s really a lesson that I see over and over again with the dying that I try to bring to the financial lives of young people is we need to start living now. We can’t always put it off to the last minute. Some people are lucky enough, like Sam, they do get to live out some of their last dreams when they find that a terminal illness is indeed upon them, but most people don’t. And so it’s incumbent upon us to start thinking about these things to having our bags packed now.”

On Money as a Tool, Not a Goal

“So looking at money as the overall goal generally leads to unhappiness. And so I think we have to really think about the role of money in our lives and recognize that it is a tool one of many different tools we have to live purposeful lives. And if we stop looking at it as a tool, I think it eventually leads to a sense of disconnect and unhappiness. But if we think of it and it’s rightful place as a way to do those other things that are important to us, um, it can be very enriching and really help us get to our goals.”

On Purpose, Identity and Connections

“So when I talk about the goal of our lives is not to make money, it’s actually to live lives of purpose, identity and connections. What I’m really saying actually is that we have a limited amount of time on this earth, okay? And time passes, no matter what we do, we can’t buy it, we can’t sell it, we can’t commoditize it. It is what it is. The only things we can kind of control is what activities we put into those time slots. We call them days, months, years, whatever you want to call them. But we have these time slots and so the only control over time we have is either controlling what we put in those time slots or on a very minimal level we can change how we perceive time. So I love to say when you’re young it seems like time is infinite, but when you get older it seems like time flies.”

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About Retirement Wisdom

Delaying retirement? Many of my clients are. But they’re using this time to invest in their future.

Is it time to design your next life?

Schedule a call to find how how the Designing Your Life process (developed by Bill Burnett & Dave Evans at Stanford) can help you unlock a new direction. Apply the same principles of design thinking that Nike and other leading companies use to design your future. Learn more about our One and One coaching and small group programs. Take the first step toward your new life today.

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About Your Host 
Joe Casey is an executive coach who also helps people design their next life after their primary career. He created his own next chapter after a twenty-six-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking.
Today, in addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, which thanks to his guests and loyal listeners, ranks in the top 1.5 % globally in popularity by Listen Notes. Business Insider has recognized him as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference.

He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.

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Intro and Outro voiceovers by Ross Huguet.